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    KAMRA: Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Tanvir Mahmood Ahmed flashes victory signs sitting in the cockpit of Prototype-4 of JF-17 aircraft.

    ISLAMABAD: The fourth Prototype (PT-4) of JF-17 ’Thunder’ aircraft, jointly produced by China and Pakistan, on Wednesday successfully completed its inaugural flight in Chengdu, China.

    Chief of the Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Tanvir Mahmood Ahmed was the chief guest on the occasion.

    Other members of the CAS high profile delegation included Air Marshal Rahat Hussain Khan CPD JF-17 and various high ranking officials of PAF and the MOD. The Chinese side was represented by Vice ministers of CONSTING, Presidents of Aviation Industries Corporation-1 (AVIC-1), CATIC, Chengdu Aircraft Design Institute (CADI), Chengdu Aircraft manufacturing Center (CAC) and other high ranking officials.

    Speaking at the occasion, the Air Chief congratulated all members of Chengdu Aircraft Design Institute, Chengdu Aircraft Corporation and PAF contingent deployed at milestones achieved for the JF-17 programme so far. He termed that the success of the joint programme as one of the most successful programmes in the recent aviation history.

    PT-4 of JF-17 is exclusively developed for avionics and weapons qualification flight testing phase. The advanced 4th generation avionics package of JF-17 aircraft integrates data from multiple sensors using weapons and mission computers and has the ability to evade and degrade the enemy’s sensors using onboard advanced electronic warfare suite.

    It would greatly enhance the lethality and survivability of JF-17 aircraft. The advanced man-machine interface helps in presenting the sensors information in an integrated and effective manner, reducing the pilots work load and improving the combat efficiency.

    The aircraft is powered by a reliable RD-93 engine, which is equipped with Digital Electronic Engine Control (DEEC) system. High trust to weight ratio and hybrid flight control provide enhance agility and maneuverability in all flight regimes.

    JF-17 has a strong night and day surface attack capability including the delivery of PGMs. Its air to air capability includes all aspect Short Range as well as Beyond Visual Rang (BVR) missiles by utilizing Multimode Pulse Doppler Radar.

    Addressing the gathering on the occasion, Chief of the Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force said, "the Avionics and weapon qualification flight testing phase on PT-4 would optimize its mission capability aspects in different flight regimes and condition. The finalization of this phase will herald a new era of serial production of aircraft in China and Pakistan."

    The first batch of operation JF-17 aircraft would arrive in Pakistan in early 2007 while serial production in Pakistan at PAC, Kamra would start in 2008.
    http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.php?id=143355

  • #2
    Pakistan doesn't have a BVR missile in its A2A arsenal yet. JF17 has the capability to use one just like the PAF's F-16s. But where are they going to get these missiles from.
    Chinese prolly?
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    • #3
      Probably.

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      • #4
        I want to see some Pakistani pilots testing the new prototype out now.

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        • #5
          OMG the fourth test!!
          I rant, therefore I am.

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          • #6
            2nd right?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Asim Aquil
              2nd right?
              Yep, second testflight of the modified prototype 04.

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              • #8
                http://www.pakistantimes.net/2006/05/12/top6.htm

                Pakistan to receive first batch of JF-17 thunder aircraft next Year
                By Maria A Khan 'Pakistan Times' Special Correspondent

                CHENGDU (China): The Pakistan Air Force will receive the delivery of first batch of JF-17 thunder aircraft sometime next year, Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Tanvir Mahmood Ahmed said.

                Talking to media here Wednesday after the success of first maiden operational test flight of PT-4 aircraft, he said the Air Force plans to induct more than 100 Fighters (JF-17) Thunders, jointly produced by China's Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation and Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra.

                Lauding the efficient performance of the prototype-4 aircraft, he said it will be equipped will 'state-of-the-art' avionics, radar and weapons integration systems. Small batch production of the single-seat, single-engine JF-17, will begin in China next month.

                Pakistan and China had been negotiating with different companies inviting them to buy the avionics package for the JF-17 aircraft. It would be economic model. The Air Chief said there is no aircraft in the world which has such good value for money.

                The exact price cannot be determined at this stage, but he said he was sure the aircraft will be almost nearly half of the price of any other fighter aircraft. And capability-wise, it would be better than some of the most modern aircraft in the world.

                Answering a question, he said, " We are confident that many Air Forces in the world will prefer to buy it, when it will go on mass production."

                About PT-4 combat aircraft, he said the project is a important milestone in development of aircraft industry in the two countries. It carried the new and modified airframe. Minor changes we might have to do after testing the aircraft, he said adding “ Now we have final shape of JF-17 (thunder) and it is hoped that this particular aircraft will get into production."

                Commenting on the depth of Sino-Pak relationship, he said it proved time-tested over the years in various sectors, including the Defence production sector. “ These relationships are based on mutual trust, faith and friendship. JF-17 programme has provided a big incentive to this relationship.

                He hoped that collaboration between the two countries enjoy would give more strength to their aviation industry. “ We are discussing some other projects with our Chinese counterparts."

                The success of the JF-17 thunder joint programme will usher a new era of strategic partnership between the two friendly countries in the aviation sector. He termed the success of the PT-4 maiden flight a big achievement in the aviation history in the recent years.

                He noted that trial flight has laid a solid foundation of further cooperation between the two countries to meet future challenges.●

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Asim Aquil
                  Probably.
                  Even the PLAAF's BVR arsenal seems to be pathetic.

                  The longest ranged A2A missile in PLAAF inventory is AA-11 Archer with a maximum range of 40KMs, depending on the version.

                  PAF's reason for buying these jets is to counter the IAF, which has AA-10 missile with a range of upto 130 KMs.

                  IAF it seems, will still remain ahead of PAF & PLAAF in BVR arena.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Maximus
                    Even the PLAAF's BVR arsenal seems to be pathetic.

                    The longest ranged A2A missile in PLAAF inventory is AA-11 Archer with a maximum range of 40KMs, depending on the version.

                    PAF's reason for buying these jets is to counter the IAF, which has AA-10 missile with a range of upto 130 KMs.

                    IAF it seems, will still remain ahead of PAF & PLAAF in BVR arena.
                    There's another missile that they're saying would be used... Perhaps Plat can give you its name.

                    I don't know all military stuff by heart, I just keep track of the overall picture.

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                    • #11
                      Aah google says its: SD-10.

                      Is it right?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Asim Aquil
                        Aah google says its: SD-10.

                        Is it right?

                        Partially. But the development programme status for SD-10/PL-12 missile is unknown. Hence it would be difficult to state about whether it is functional in the PLAAF or not.

                        Max range is stated to be around 70 KMs.

                        http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/weapon/pl12.asp
                        http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...hina/pl-12.htm
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Maximus
                          Pakistan doesn't have a BVR missile in its A2A arsenal yet. JF17 has the capability to use one just like the PAF's F-16s. But where are they going to get these missiles from.
                          Chinese prolly?
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                          the last i knew PAF didnt have BVR capability whatsoever.. even if the PAF-f16 can fire bvr missiles.. the americans didnt give them bvr missiles to use..
                          but i am equally amazed to know that Jf17 can use only one.. can u please give the source of this info.. a lot of this will depend on the capability of the radar... i.e. if it can handle only one we should know which radar will be used..

                          Chineese SD10 isnt ready yet.. and with the secrecy chineese keep with their defence programs i dont think we will know this soon....of course russian source is closed due to indian hands.. the only direction they can see is to US.. and they definitely wont get source codes to integrate US missiles into JF17.. ( if they are getting AMRAAM.. at all)..

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                          • #14
                            SD-10 is not operational.

                            Pakistan to receive first batch of JF-17 thunder aircraft next Year
                            So what engine is going to power these aircrafts?
                            Russian or Chinese?

                            If its Chinese, is the engine operational?

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                            • #15
                              Has the RD-93 been denied officially to Pakistan?

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