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  • “fire a clip into a 7-meter target with the full understanding that unrepentant lethality matters most. Aim for the head.”
    That got me laughing my ass off. Birdbrains trying to be Rambos. That ain't their jobs. Leave the bellycrawling to the the bellycrawlers.
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    • Am I the only one left on the planet who refused to believe that AShBM can hit squat without a freaking test?
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      • CSIS wargame this out and I cannot believe a USMCR Colonel wrote this crock

        https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazona...hFolxC_gZQuSOQ

        Aside from assuming AShBMs would ever work without a test, attacks on ML China is out of bounds - on what freaking planet? This resulted in 2 carriers lost and at least 290 aircrafts. In other words, fight the kind of war China wants to fight. Well, how about fighting our kind of war instead. Kill the Chinese C4ISR.
        Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 26 Feb 23,, 19:40.
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        • Aside from assuming AShBMs would ever work without a test, attacks on ML China is out of bounds - on what freaking planet? This resulted in 2 carriers lost and at least 290 aircrafts. In other words, fight the kind of war China wants to fight. Well, how about fighting our kind of war instead. Kill the Chinese C4ISR.
          kill the invasion fleet/ROROs first, then transition to blinding.

          in fact, the PLAN will probably push out first to quasi-blockade Taiwan and act as a meat shield so that USAF/USN are delayed from intervention. so after initial invasion is knocked back, the USN/USAF would need to take out the PLAN, then finally be in a position to hit mainland to wipe air defense/C4ISR.

          Taiwan and Japan would probably be in a better position to hit PRC C4ISR nodes via their own long-range strike, but god knows there's a shit ton of targets.
          There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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          • Originally posted by astralis View Post
            kill the invasion fleet/ROROs first, then transition to blinding.
            That is fighting the exact war China wants. Our planes will fight their planes in the sky while their home bases are safe while our carriers are not. I don't even want them to have the ability to find our carriers. As soon as that fleet sails east, they should be blinded right off the bat so they don't know where the hits are coming from. I don't even want them to be able to co-ordinate air strike groups
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            • If the ROK and Japan sit out the conflict. Does that mean that no US assets, US bases and US personal from those countries be used by the US in the conflict? I am thinking October 1973, except for Portugal no NATO country allowed a transport or support tanker to operate from their soil destined for Israel. Is Guam going to be the US closest airfield?

              When the PRC held their exercises in August 2022 flying into China was not a direct line proposition. If the shooting starts the airspace over Taiwan, for transport category aircraft is going to be a very hazardous. I don't think any civil aviation is going to be flying to China. While there is CRAF they are going to be crewed by civilians somewhere along the line. Asking a civilian flight crew to go into harms way in contested airspace maybe asking too much?

              Does the PRC only have to execute a selective naval blockade and a selective no fly area to cut off Taiwan? I know the PRC will be cutting itself off as well in any conflict. The Belt and Road wouldn't make up for the loss off air and shipping.

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              • Train as you fight. Fight as you train.

                Thus far, there is zero indications that the Americans expect Japan or South Korea to put full stop in their defence efforts to protect Taiwan.
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