Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

China invades Taiwan

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • “fire a clip into a 7-meter target with the full understanding that unrepentant lethality matters most. Aim for the head.”
    That got me laughing my ass off. Birdbrains trying to be Rambos. That ain't their jobs. Leave the bellycrawling to the the bellycrawlers.
    Chimo

    Comment


    • Am I the only one left on the planet who refused to believe that AShBM can hit squat without a freaking test?
      Chimo

      Comment


      • CSIS wargame this out and I cannot believe a USMCR Colonel wrote this crock

        https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazona...hFolxC_gZQuSOQ

        Aside from assuming AShBMs would ever work without a test, attacks on ML China is out of bounds - on what freaking planet? This resulted in 2 carriers lost and at least 290 aircrafts. In other words, fight the kind of war China wants to fight. Well, how about fighting our kind of war instead. Kill the Chinese C4ISR.
        Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 26 Feb 23,, 19:40.
        Chimo

        Comment


        • Aside from assuming AShBMs would ever work without a test, attacks on ML China is out of bounds - on what freaking planet? This resulted in 2 carriers lost and at least 290 aircrafts. In other words, fight the kind of war China wants to fight. Well, how about fighting our kind of war instead. Kill the Chinese C4ISR.
          kill the invasion fleet/ROROs first, then transition to blinding.

          in fact, the PLAN will probably push out first to quasi-blockade Taiwan and act as a meat shield so that USAF/USN are delayed from intervention. so after initial invasion is knocked back, the USN/USAF would need to take out the PLAN, then finally be in a position to hit mainland to wipe air defense/C4ISR.

          Taiwan and Japan would probably be in a better position to hit PRC C4ISR nodes via their own long-range strike, but god knows there's a shit ton of targets.
          There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

          Comment


          • Originally posted by astralis View Post
            kill the invasion fleet/ROROs first, then transition to blinding.
            That is fighting the exact war China wants. Our planes will fight their planes in the sky while their home bases are safe while our carriers are not. I don't even want them to have the ability to find our carriers. As soon as that fleet sails east, they should be blinded right off the bat so they don't know where the hits are coming from. I don't even want them to be able to co-ordinate air strike groups
            Chimo

            Comment


            • If the ROK and Japan sit out the conflict. Does that mean that no US assets, US bases and US personal from those countries be used by the US in the conflict? I am thinking October 1973, except for Portugal no NATO country allowed a transport or support tanker to operate from their soil destined for Israel. Is Guam going to be the US closest airfield?

              When the PRC held their exercises in August 2022 flying into China was not a direct line proposition. If the shooting starts the airspace over Taiwan, for transport category aircraft is going to be a very hazardous. I don't think any civil aviation is going to be flying to China. While there is CRAF they are going to be crewed by civilians somewhere along the line. Asking a civilian flight crew to go into harms way in contested airspace maybe asking too much?

              Does the PRC only have to execute a selective naval blockade and a selective no fly area to cut off Taiwan? I know the PRC will be cutting itself off as well in any conflict. The Belt and Road wouldn't make up for the loss off air and shipping.

              Comment


              • Train as you fight. Fight as you train.

                Thus far, there is zero indications that the Americans expect Japan or South Korea to put full stop in their defence efforts to protect Taiwan.
                Chimo

                Comment


                • China would do this, if it may happen then it would happen. Taiwan has fate to be part of China, sooner or later.
                  USA will continue weaken and stronger China will finally take over Taiwan
                  If the Chinese invade Taiwan, and the US obliges to the Taiwan Relations Act, what does military confrontation and resistance to a Chinese invasion look like? I guess it would be a gamble for the Chinese. Does anyone want to rebut the idea that China would invade Taiwan, knowing the US is obligated to defend it. Present US

                  Comment


                  • Originally posted by santosh10 View Post
                    China would do this, if it may happen then it would happen. Taiwan has fate to be part of China, sooner or later.
                    USA will continue weaken and stronger China will finally take over Taiwan
                    Please provide the evidence that the military gap between China and the US is getting smaller, ie US continues to weaken and China getting stronger. There are 10 pages of data in this very thread that states otherwise.
                    Chimo

                    Comment


                    • sir, India, Russia or even Pakistan can fight in sea china, how US will fight? is this this Afghan or Iraq or Syria-Libia, its worse than Vietnam experience of US. war fought on ground, and there is no resistance to China there.....
                      If the Chinese invade Taiwan, and the US obliges to the Taiwan Relations Act, what does military confrontation and resistance to a Chinese invasion look like? I guess it would be a gamble for the Chinese. Does anyone want to rebut the idea that China would invade Taiwan, knowing the US is obligated to defend it. Present US

                      Comment


                      • India and Russia can sail into the South China Seas as does the US and Western Allies. It's called Freedom of Navigation. To fight in the SCS, however, requires dominance of the Seas and thus far, 13 American carriers and their respective Carrier Groups, not to mention the world's quietest submarine fleet and the best ASW bar none on the planet have no equals.

                        For example, damage control. Check on Chinese carriers where are their fire suppression systems. Where the Chinese have fire extinguishers, the Americans have fire fighting pipes and pressured hoses. Damage control is not an afterthought. It's a design priority on all American warships. The Chinese? They don't have the experience and, thus, damage control is done after the installation of weapons.
                        Chimo

                        Comment


                        • i was talking about how we need the 'people', the men, who will fight any war. India, Russia has the military men which they mean for it. if we go to sea china, its all China. how far Taiwan from mainland china, within 100 km.
                          weaponries matters but its the people who fight any war. what war US has fought? is it Afghan or Iraq, Syria or Libia? even Vietnam war was a meaning of having people on ground. India, Russia, even Pakistan has people in their border, similarly mainland China. who will fight war in Taiwan? its all china
                          US can't resist China there, Taiwan will sooner or later is set to be part of China. its location within 100km of China too, its certainly there is no resistance to China, what i find.....
                          If the Chinese invade Taiwan, and the US obliges to the Taiwan Relations Act, what does military confrontation and resistance to a Chinese invasion look like? I guess it would be a gamble for the Chinese. Does anyone want to rebut the idea that China would invade Taiwan, knowing the US is obligated to defend it. Present US

                          Comment


                          • No army in history has swam 1 km, let alone 100 km.
                            Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 17 Jul 23,, 23:06.
                            Chimo

                            Comment


                            • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                              No army in history has swam 1 km, let alone 100 km.
                              Quite.

                              There is a reason there are so few large amphibious invasions in the modern era and why anything much wider than a river crossing has required US navy involvement (the Falklands being on a much smaller scale that what China needs to do). Very difficult to cross 100km of sea of someone is trying to stop you.
                              sigpic

                              Win nervously lose tragically - Reds C C

                              Comment


                              • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                                No army in history has swam 1 km, let alone 100 km.
                                What if the PRC engages in a selective blockade? US reacts submarine and naval surface warfare, USAF/USN air strikes. Blockade also closes the PRC ports. No commercial air or sea service to Taiwan as it is a war zone.

                                ROK Japan, PI are like NATO in the 1973 war. They want no part of it and don't allow US to conduct operations from their soil.

                                PRC uses air strikes and SSMs just useful enough to destroy a lot of stuff and people.

                                Everybody closes their airspace to the PRC. PRC will have the most expensive, longest transit and least capable lift in the belt and road system.

                                Will the US and the people/leadership of Taiwan wait it out and survive?

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X