NATO vs. Warsaw Pact

[Bill]

Yeah, OK comrade.

The Soviet 'empire' was such a menace that the US crushed them without even firing a shot. Whooo.....such a boogey man.

LOL.

The Soviet Union was the epitome of a paper tiger.

[Rokosowksy]

USSR was the most military powerful country in the mankind history! US was simply a military migdet squab compared with communist empire. Thank God you American morons that III Word War didn't emerge because your country would be obliterated together with your European puppets! USSR's downfall was caused by this stupid traitor Gorbie. So don't say ********s that USSR's breakdown was some your contribution, you retarded Yankees!
"The paper tiger" is a famous Mao's description of your perverted homeland! All the world knows it except stupid Americans of course!

[TopHatter]

USSR was the most military powerful country in the mankind history! US was simply a military migdet squab compared with communist empire. Thank God you American morons that III Word War didn't emerge because your country would be obliterated together with your European puppets! USSR's downfall was caused by this stupid traitor Gorbie. So don't say ********s that USSR's breakdown was some your contribution, you retarded Yankees!
"The paper tiger" is a famous Mao's description of your perverted homeland! All the world knows it except stupid Americans of course!

Has anybody done an ISP check on this person? Or an IQ test?

[Bill]

Why bother, he's a troll, regardless of where he hails from.

[Broken]

USSR was the most military powerful country in the mankind history! US was simply a military migdet squab compared with communist empire. Thank God you American morons that III Word War didn't emerge because your country would be obliterated together with your European puppets! USSR's downfall was caused by this stupid traitor Gorbie. So don't say ********s that USSR's breakdown was some your contribution, you retarded Yankees!
"The paper tiger" is a famous Mao's description of your perverted homeland! All the world knows it except stupid Americans of course!

I seriously doubt any knowledgable Russian would agree.

[troung]

Guys he doesn't even know the areas the USSR was better then NATO in. And I ain't telling those areas.... ;)

14 was also only a cheap imitation of the best interceptor ever built - the Soviet MiG-31 with first introduced airborne steered phazed array radar!!!

The F-14 entered service first and unlike the MiG-31 has actually seen combat. Also the MiG-31 used a SARH missile while the F-14 used the ARH AIM-54. No contest. Also the F-14 can tangle with enemy fighters up close unlike the MiG-31.

Plus the majority of NATO planes could use the AIM-9L. Rather few WP planes used the R-60 which BTW was nothing compared to the AIM-9L. The MiG-29A during the 1980s mostly employed the R-60MK.

Muhahaha!!! F-16A was also much inferior than Soviet MiG-29A, which had BVR capability for example!!!

The R-27R... no comment... and F-16ADFs did have the far more capable AIM-7F/M.

Think abou Vietnam - you'll find similarities

All things said America did a better job during the 2nd Indochina war fighting a far more capable enemy then the USSR did in Afghanistan... the air battles over North Vietnam went much better then the air battles near the Pak border...

mentioned 4000 remaining fighters like MiG-23, MiG-25, Su-15TM!!!

None of which could tangle with F-15s, F-14s or even F-16s.

USSR was the most military powerful country in the mankind history!

It was a rotten house which fell down really hard...

[Rokosowksy]

Guys he doesn't even know the areas the USSR was better then NATO in. And I ain't telling those areas....

Muhaha! We have another headless Yankee here! Let's watch his scribbles!

The F-14 entered service first and unlike the MiG-31 has actually seen combat. Also the MiG-31 used a SARH missile while the F-14 used the ARH AIM-54. No contest. Also the F-14 can tangle with enemy fighters up close unlike the MiG-31.

I meant situation when both F-14 and MiG-31 were in service. You are wrong guy, because F-14 possessed a lot more inferior radar than MiG-31! Soviet fighter had also a thermal sight. F-14 could engage several target simultaneusly solely when all targets were close to each other! On the other hand MiG-31 could engage targets placed in stratosphere and a few meter over the ground in the same time! Moreover MiG-31s had a unique APD-518 real-time data transmission system, far more capable than American JTIDS introduced a decade later!

Plus the majority of NATO planes could use the AIM-9L. Rather few WP planes used the R-60 which BTW was nothing compared to the AIM-9L. The MiG-29A during the 1980s mostly employed the R-60MK.

Muhaha! R-60 and R-2S missiles were used by Soviet Arab allies in order to mask a real Soviet capabilities in that area! In 1980s Soviet Air Force had already introduced a revolutionary R-73 missile - the best dogfight missile ever seen! Your AIM-9L was a crap against R-73, dude!

The R-27R... no comment... and F-16ADFs did have the far more capable AIM-7F/M.

Muhaha! F-16ADFs constituted a few percent of all F-16A's amount of production. They were used only in US to improve completely leacky NORAD ADF system based on 1950's vintage F-106 mammoths! So F-16ADF had never based in Europe before the end of Cold War!
Why did you mention only a R-27R missile??? Maybe you don't know anything about R-27T, R-27RE, R-27TE, R-27P and...R-27AE - first medium range ARH missile introduced on Su-27 Flankers in 1986 - FOUR YEARS BEFORE AIM-120 began service in USAF???

All things said America did a better job during the 2nd Indochina war fighting a far more capable enemy then the USSR did in Afghanistan... the air battles over North Vietnam went much better then the air battles near the Pak border...

Muhaha!!! What a ****!!! More stupid air campain than McNamara's guided "Rolling Thunder" operation never seen before in the annals of military art! This idiot ordered US aircrafts to bomb a telegraphic pillars as Soviet SAMs although he knew about it very well!

None of which could tangle with F-15s, F-14s or even F-16s.

But they were good enough to shot down F-100s, F-104s, F-4s, Mirage-IIIs, Mirage-F1s and similiar western junk!

It was a rotten house which fell down really hard...

Rather NATO was a military rotten house in the 1980s and before! I only regret that USSR/WP forces didn't attack this western bawdy-house at that time! Now everybody would know WHO was a military world's champion in 1980s!

[leib10]

Far more inferior radar than the F-14!? Pssht! I'd like to see what would happen if a formation of MiG-31's even tried to take on a formation of F-14's. No contest.

[dalem]

I meant situation when both F-14 and MiG-31 were in service.

You mean like when the tiny number of MiG-31s were patrolling over the Rodina and the 15 or so wings of F-14s were actively flying all over the world with our CVBGs? Those situations?

You are wrong guy, because F-14 possessed a lot more inferior radar than MiG-31! Soviet fighter had also a thermal sight. F-14 could engage several target simultaneusly solely when all targets were close to each other!

A formation of bombers at 100nm is pretty much going to define "close to each other", isn't it?

And a thermal sight on a high-altitude interceptor like the MiG-31 is useful for exactly what again?

Go away Roko-Rambo, this is one of your least-amusing personas.

-dale

[Rokosowksy]

You mean like when the tiny number of MiG-31s were patrolling over the Rodina and the 15 or so wings of F-14s were actively flying all over the world with our CVBGs? Those situations?

Tiny number of MiG-31s??? I inform you that USSR produced almost 500 MiG-31s, ignorant! :

A formation of bombers at 100nm is pretty much going to define "close to each other", isn't it?

Of course formation of Soviet antiship cruise missiles arrived at your crappy CVBGs from different directions and at various altitudes also constitute a "close to each other" in your half-minded head!

And a thermal sight on a high-altitude interceptor like the MiG-31 is useful for exactly what again?

Yes, very useful! Especially when Foxhound is hunting for your primitive cruise missiles and obsolete B-1 bombers!

Go away Roko-Rambo, this is one of your least-amusing personas.

So try to use your computer to support your retarded mind because your statements are very wretched, goat!

[leib10]

And what do you have that's better than the B-1 that isn't rotting on some remote airfield due to lack of funds for parts, maintenance, and fuel?

[Praxus]

Rokosowksy, what is it that makes you love the cruelest, most destructive slave state in the history of the world?

Is it nationalism? Is it a genuine belief in Soviet Communism? Or do you think it makes you cool?

[Rokosowksy]

And what do you have that's better than the B-1 that isn't rotting on some remote airfield due to lack of funds for parts, maintenance, and fuel?

It seems that fascism is dead everywhere in the world except US and especially crankly Texas!

Rokosowksy, what is it that makes you love the cruelest, most destructive slave state in the history of the world?

Is it nationalism? Is it a genuine belief in Soviet Communism? Or do you think it makes you cool?

Better look at your perverted, deceitful, false country inhabited by the world's most stupid, degenerated, revengeful, unfair, blind society and ruled by some dull clown from Texas who is capable only for feed cows on prairie!

[Praxus]

Better look at your perverted, deceitful, false country inhabited by the world's most stupid, degenerated, revengeful, unfair, blind society

This isn't an answer. In fact, it's a complete evasion. What you feel the US is, has no bearing on why you think the Soviet Union is virtuous.

and ruled by some dull clown from Texas who is capable only for feed cows on prairie!

As opposed to an ex-KGB agent hell bent on turning Russia into a fascist state?

Unlike Soviet Russia, the United States is ruled by an elected president, and an elected legislature limited by a constitution.

[Bill]

Speaking of the Soviet Union....

"That was a time when only the dead could smile."
~ Anna Akhmatova