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  • #16
    Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post

    The North Koreans could not have moved any faster with or without American air interference. They were a foot army right on the heels of the South Koreans and more often than not, the infantry outran the artillery. I don't see how they could move any faster without some motor transport.
    your right. What do you think more supplies would have meant?


    • #17
      If the NKs could have moved the artillery right up with the infantry, I think the port itself would have been shelled but I also think the port would remain operational. Right up to the Pusan Break Out, the NKs have pretty well secured their LOC, even after Inchon. I just don't see a different outcome. If the NKs had routed the SKs and beaten the Americans to Pusan, that would be another matter but that didn't happen.


      • #18
        Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post

        I'm keen to see this, but this link doeson't work.


        • #19
          Try this


          • #20
            Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
            Thank you :)


            • #21
              How willing were the Americans in using nukes if things got out of hand?

              Historian Bruce Cumings said that the U.S. reached its closest point of using nuclear weapons during the war in April 1951. At the end of March, after the Chinese had moved large amounts of new forces near the Korean border, U.S. bomb loading pits at Kadena air base in Okinawa were made operational, and bombs were assembled there "lacking only the essential nuclear cores." On April 5, the Joint Chiefs of Staff released orders for immediate retaliatory attacks using atomic weapons against Manchurian bases in the event that large numbers of new Chinese troops entered into the fights or bombing attacks originated from those bases. The same day Truman gave his approval for transfer of nine Mark IV nuclear capsules "to the air force's Ninth Bomb Group, the designated carrier of the weapons" and "the president signed an order to use them against Chinese and Korean targets." Remarking that the signed order was never sent.

              In October 1951, U.S. forces performed Operation Hudson Harbor intending to establish the capability to use nuclear weapons. Several B-29s conducted individual simulated bomb runs from Okinawa to North Korea, delivering “dummy” nuclear bombs or heavy conventional bombs; the operation was coordinated from Yokota Air Base in Japan. The battle exercise was intended to test “actual functioning of all activities which would be involved in an atomic strike, including weapons assembly and testing, leading, ground control of bomb aiming,” and so on. The results indicated that nuclear bombs would be less effective than anticipated, because “timely identification of large masses of enemy troops was extremely rare.”

              Haven't read Cumings book, a bit of it here......

              Have read Max Hastings book and his take on the use of nuclear weapons.

              Hastings writes.....

              How close did the U.S. come to, in the Winter of 1950, to employing nuclear bombs against China?
              Much closer, the answer must be, than the Allies cared to believe at the time.
              Americas leading military men from the joint chiefs down, were not disturbed by the prospect of using them.
              Had the Chinese proved able to convert the defeat of the UN forces into their destruction, had 8th army been driven headlong for the coastal ports with massive casualties, it is impossible to say with certainty that Truman would have resisted demand for an Atomic demonstration against China.
              The pressure upon the politicians from the military leaders of America might well have become irresistible in the face of strategic disaster.

              Thankfully it didn't get to that situation, but there's not much doubt that the use of nukes was always a possibility as Truman said at a press conference on 30th Nov. that the U.S. would take whatever steps necessary to meet the military situation, including the use of nuclear weapons.


              • #22
                Originally posted by zraver View Post
                Because China was protected by the USSR. if we nuked China, they nuked Europe.
                z, do you think the Soviets would have started a war in Europe as a response to a US nuclear strike against the Chinese? Anything in Soviet military doctrine/planning that stated this?
                "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."


                • #23
                  Just saw this and like to share it here.

                  The Case of Wang Lian (In Korean as Wang Yong)

                  In 1924, a military flying school was formed as part of the Huangpu Military Academy and Wang Lian, a Korean, was one of the 18 Communists selected to attend the 12 months of aviation training. He was send to Soviet Union in 1925 to 1926 for advanced flight training, worked in the CCP's Yan'an military HQ during the Japanese invasion responsible for aviation affairs. In 1946, Wang returned to Korea and served as commander of the North Korean air force, and later deputy commander of the Chinese-Korean joint air force as a Major General.
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