Thread: If Germany had won WWI

Updated map.

Wow! Thats a pretty good and probable map of what would have happened.

what interests me is to see a world map, and to see what territories germany won from britain and france.

One thing your maps don't include are colonies. If Germany forced France and Britain to give up their colonies, just like Germany was forced to when they lost, it would have massive implications.

Indochina, would have either become independent, or become German colonies. The same goes for South Asia.

Originally Posted by Aryan

One thing your maps don't include are colonies. If Germany forced France and Britain to give up their colonies, just like Germany was forced to when they lost, it would have massive implications.

Indochina, would have either become independent, or become German colonies. The same goes for South Asia.

I doubt that Germany could have made Britain give up much in the line of anything, nor would they have tried. After the Great War would have ended, Germany would still have been psychologically incapable of facing Britain in the North Sea (much as they were all the way through the war), and Germany didn't want the dismemberment of the British Empire anyways (they certainly couldn't replace it, and they had been attempting to form alliances with England as late as 1904). Instead, a negotiated peace would have given Germany substantial concessions from France (whose homeland they could occupy), and a very multi-polar world would have developed (Britain, Germany, the United States, Japan, and perhaps Russia depending on how the civil war turned out).

The Austro-Hungarian Empire was doomed, and the only way it could have lasted for very long would be with substantial German support. Even then, it's survival would have been entirely at the sufferance of the German Empire.

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The outcome would depend on when / how the Germans won. For example, do they win in 1914 or 1918? Is it a 'compromise' peace that leaves Germany with eastern annexations but not in complete control of the west? Or do we assume that France collapsed completely? The Germans would also have annexed the Ukraine - Bulgaria would have taken the southern part of Serbia (Macedonia). Hard to see the Germans taking much overseas, unless you're assuming some sort of decisive German win at a 'Jutland' like naval battle. Of course the Turks hold onto the Middle East, with German support. Clearly leaves Germany a dominant world power. I agree with previous comments about Austria - it becomes more and more a puppet state of Germany as they are more and more dependent on Germany.

Ironduke already explained that it was based on the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk and the German advancement into Belgium. Looking at the map France seems to have not been crushed, although they failed to get Alsace and Loraine back from Germany.

Originally Posted by ZFBoxcar

Ironduke already explained that it was based on the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk and the German advancement into Belgium. Looking at the map France seems to have not been crushed, although they failed to get Alsace and Loraine back from Germany.

It does say that the map is based on the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, but I didn't see anything about the particular circumstances of Germany's victory. So, they crush the French in 1914, sign a peace treaty with France more or less without annexation to free up forces to shift to the Russian front and force a 'Treaty of Brest-Litovsk' in 1915. That's rather different from a historical war up until 1917 and then a stalemate on the Western front for instance.