2005 HDI rankings out

Aryan · 09-08-2005, 22:11 PM

HDI Rank
1 Norway
2 Iceland
3 Australia
4 Luxembourg
5 Canada
6 Sweden
7 Switzerland
8 Ireland
9 Belgium
10 United States
11 Japan
12 Netherlands
13 Finland
14 Denmark
15 United Kingdom
16 France
17 Austria
18 Italy
19 New Zealand
20 Germany
21 Spain
22 Hong Kong,China (SAR)
23 Israel
24 Greece
25 Singapore
26 Slovenia
27 Portugal
28 Korea,Rep.of
29 Cyprus
30 Barbados
31 Czech Republic
32 Malta
33 Brunei Darussalam
34 Argentina
35 Hungary
36 Poland
37 Chile
38 Estonia
39 Lithuania
40 Qatar
41 United Arab Emirates
42 Slovakia
43 Bahrain
44 Kuwait
45 Croatia
46 Uruguay
47 Costa Rica
48 Latvia
49 Saint Kitts and Nevis
50 Bahamas
51 Seychelles
52 Cuba
53 Mexico
54 Tonga
55 Bulgaria
56 Panama
57 Trinidad and Tobago
58 Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
59 Macedonia,TFYR
60 Antigua and Barbuda
61 Malaysia
62 Russian Federation
63 Brazil
64 Romania
65 Mauritius
66 Grenada
67 Belarus
68 Bosnia and Herzegovina
69 Colombia
70 Dominica
71 Oman
72 Albania
73 Thailand
74 Samoa (Western)
75 Venezuela
76 Saint Lucia
77 Saudi Arabia
78 Ukraine
79 Peru
80 Kazakhstan
81 Lebanon
82 Ecuador
83 Armenia
84 Philippines
85 China
86 Suriname
87 Saint Vincent &
the Grenadines
88 Paraguay
89 Tunisia
90 Jordan
91 Belize
92 Fiji
93 Sri Lanka
94 Turkey
95 Dominican Republic
96 Maldives
97 Turkmenistan
98 Jamaica
99 Iran,Islamic Rep.of
100 Georgia
101 Azerbaijan
102 Occupied Palestinian Territories
103 Algeria
104 El Salvador
105 Cape Verde
106 Syrian Arab Republic
107 Guyana
108 Viet Nam
109 Kyrgyzstan
110 Indonesia
111 Uzbekistan
112 Nicaragua
113 Bolivia
114 Mongolia
115 Moldova,Rep.of
116 Honduras
117 Guatemala
118 Vanuatu
119 Egypt
120 South Africa
121 Equatorial Guinea
122 Tajikistan
123 Gabon
124 Morocco
125 Namibia
126 São Tomé and Principe
127 India
128 Solomon Islands
129 Myanmar
130 Cambodia
131 Botswana
132 Comoros
133 Lao People ’s Dem.Rep.
134 Bhutan
135 Pakistan
136 Nepal
137 Papua New Guinea
138 Ghana
139 Bangladesh
140 Timor-Leste
141 Sudan
142 Congo
143 Togo
144 Uganda
145 Zimbabwe
146 Madagascar
147 Swaziland
148 Cameroon
149 Lesotho
150 Djibouti
151 Yemen
152 Mauritania
153 Haiti
154 Kenya
155 Gambia
156 Guinea
157 Senegal
158 Nigeria
159 Rwanda
160 Angola
161 Eritrea
162 Benin
163 Côte d ’Ivoire
164 Tanzania,U.Rep.of
165 Malawi
166 Zambia
167 Congo,Dem.Rep.of the
168 Mozambique
169 Burundi
170 Ethiopia
171 Central African Republic
172 Guinea-Bissau
173 Chad
174 Mali
175 Burkina Faso
176 Sierra Leone
177 Niger

http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2...05_PKE_HDI.pdf

Leader · 09-09-2005, 00:39 AM

A lot of cold countries in the top 10.

dalem · 09-09-2005, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Leader

A lot of cold countries in the top 10.

And only one that can defend itself.

-dale

Leader · 09-09-2005, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dalem

And only one that can defend itself.

-dale

There's only one country in the top nine that I would choose to live in. It's the only country with any good whether.

thesaint · 09-09-2005, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Leader

There's only one country in the top nine that I would choose to live in. It's the only country with any good whether.

you like Canadian weather ?!

btw Haiti is 100 places behind Cuba

Leader · 09-09-2005, 15:13 PM

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Originally Posted by thesaint

you like Canadian weather ?!

btw Haiti is 100 places behind Cuba

It's not Canada. try again

giggs88 · 09-09-2005, 15:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leader

It's not Canada. try again

I'm sure it's not Switzerland or Sweden. Belgium is full of French. The rest don't matter. It's Australia right?

Aryan · 09-09-2005, 18:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leader

There's only one country in the top nine that I would choose to live in. It's the only country with any good whether.

Easy, its Australia

I'm thinking about moving there myself...

Leader · 09-09-2005, 21:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giggs88

I'm sure it's not Switzerland or Sweden. Belgium is full of French. The rest don't matter. It's Australia right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aryan

Easy, its Australia

I'm thinking about moving there myself...

yep

Leader · 09-09-2005, 21:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesaint

btw Haiti is 100 places behind Cuba

Oh yeah, when are you going to get that it doesn't matter to me? I won't compromise my values for better living conditions. You don't understand this. You think that by proving how bad Haiti is and how much better Cuba is that I'm going to change my mind. You need to understand that those things aren't that important to me.

Aryan · 09-09-2005, 21:34 PM

Australia is a great country to live in, but it would be odd having the seasons in reverse...

The only reason Cuba ranks so highly is because they churn out thousands of doctors every year who end up getting paid less the taxi drivers. Its doing well because it can force people to work cheaply, not because its a fantastic place to live...

thesaint · 09-11-2005, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aryan

Australia is a great country to live in, but it would be odd having the seasons in reverse...

The only reason Cuba ranks so highly is because they churn out thousands of doctors every year who end up getting paid less the taxi drivers. Its doing well because it can force people to work cheaply, not because its a fantastic place to live...

if you had to choose, would you rather be a doctor or a taxi driver, your salary being the same ?

Besides, have you read the parameters for the HDI rankings ? Your explanation for Cuba's is wrong.

Aryan · 09-11-2005, 07:51 AM

I'd rather not go through the hassle of 6 years of medical school and god knows what else if I could just get the same salary working as a taxi driver...

And how was my explanation wrong? It is pretty straightforward. The HDI index is based on, among other things basic health indicators such as child mortality rates. If America could force all its doctors and nurses to work on half their current salary, they could increase the amount of doctors without increasing the size of the health budget. Not very ethical, but it is effective at making a country more healthier.

Granted there are other factors involved, but the fact of the matter is no one here is going to want to live in a country where u'd get hung by the balls for not liking the leader.

bonehead · 09-11-2005, 13:21 PM

The A.M.A. has us by the balls due to their strict quotas of doctors and medical equipment. This guarentees the doctors and MRI machines will be busy while the patients wait. Have you ever noticed that if you miss an appointment you can still be billed for it yet if the doctor misses your appointment(good reason or not) you are not compensated. The A.M.A holds all the cards and nothing short of a full fledged revolt will change things. There are doctor and nurse shortages in many areas. Not because of lack of qualified people who want to get into those fields, but because of the pitifully few med schools and training centers that will never catch up to demand. Some schools want to increase enrollment but the A.M.A says "Nope. Any unautherized increase will jepordize accreditation.
On the other hand, we are awash in lawyers which creates nightmares for our judicial system.(too many stupid law suits and lawyers wanting to litigate everything into the ground whether it needs to get litigated or not. Their, "I need a new beemer so lets go litigate something" mentality is costing us millions.

I have talked to a few people who escaped cuba. They felt cuba was a great place to live except for one thing. Castro and his political system has to go.

gilgamesh · 09-11-2005, 13:31 PM

Dang, I must move to São Tomé and Principe!

09-08-2005, 22:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
Aryan Banished Join Date: 05-02-04 Posts: 1,532	2005 HDI rankings out HDI Rank 1 Norway 2 Iceland 3 Australia 4 Luxembourg 5 Canada 6 Sweden 7 Switzerland 8 Ireland 9 Belgium 10 United States 11 Japan 12 Netherlands 13 Finland 14 Denmark 15 United Kingdom 16 France 17 Austria 18 Italy 19 New Zealand 20 Germany 21 Spain 22 Hong Kong,China (SAR) 23 Israel 24 Greece 25 Singapore 26 Slovenia 27 Portugal 28 Korea,Rep.of 29 Cyprus 30 Barbados 31 Czech Republic 32 Malta 33 Brunei Darussalam 34 Argentina 35 Hungary 36 Poland 37 Chile 38 Estonia 39 Lithuania 40 Qatar 41 United Arab Emirates 42 Slovakia 43 Bahrain 44 Kuwait 45 Croatia 46 Uruguay 47 Costa Rica 48 Latvia 49 Saint Kitts and Nevis 50 Bahamas 51 Seychelles 52 Cuba 53 Mexico 54 Tonga 55 Bulgaria 56 Panama 57 Trinidad and Tobago 58 Libyan Arab Jamahiriya 59 Macedonia,TFYR 60 Antigua and Barbuda 61 Malaysia 62 Russian Federation 63 Brazil 64 Romania 65 Mauritius 66 Grenada 67 Belarus 68 Bosnia and Herzegovina 69 Colombia 70 Dominica 71 Oman 72 Albania 73 Thailand 74 Samoa (Western) 75 Venezuela 76 Saint Lucia 77 Saudi Arabia 78 Ukraine 79 Peru 80 Kazakhstan 81 Lebanon 82 Ecuador 83 Armenia 84 Philippines 85 China 86 Suriname 87 Saint Vincent & the Grenadines 88 Paraguay 89 Tunisia 90 Jordan 91 Belize 92 Fiji 93 Sri Lanka 94 Turkey 95 Dominican Republic 96 Maldives 97 Turkmenistan 98 Jamaica 99 Iran,Islamic Rep.of 100 Georgia 101 Azerbaijan 102 Occupied Palestinian Territories 103 Algeria 104 El Salvador 105 Cape Verde 106 Syrian Arab Republic 107 Guyana 108 Viet Nam 109 Kyrgyzstan 110 Indonesia 111 Uzbekistan 112 Nicaragua 113 Bolivia 114 Mongolia 115 Moldova,Rep.of 116 Honduras 117 Guatemala 118 Vanuatu 119 Egypt 120 South Africa 121 Equatorial Guinea 122 Tajikistan 123 Gabon 124 Morocco 125 Namibia 126 São Tomé and Principe 127 India 128 Solomon Islands 129 Myanmar 130 Cambodia 131 Botswana 132 Comoros 133 Lao People ’s Dem.Rep. 134 Bhutan 135 Pakistan 136 Nepal 137 Papua New Guinea 138 Ghana 139 Bangladesh 140 Timor-Leste 141 Sudan 142 Congo 143 Togo 144 Uganda 145 Zimbabwe 146 Madagascar 147 Swaziland 148 Cameroon 149 Lesotho 150 Djibouti 151 Yemen 152 Mauritania 153 Haiti 154 Kenya 155 Gambia 156 Guinea 157 Senegal 158 Nigeria 159 Rwanda 160 Angola 161 Eritrea 162 Benin 163 Côte d ’Ivoire 164 Tanzania,U.Rep.of 165 Malawi 166 Zambia 167 Congo,Dem.Rep.of the 168 Mozambique 169 Burundi 170 Ethiopia 171 Central African Republic 172 Guinea-Bissau 173 Chad 174 Mali 175 Burkina Faso 176 Sierra Leone 177 Niger http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2...05_PKE_HDI.pdf Last edited by Aryan : 09-08-2005 at 22:18 PM.

09-09-2005, 00:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
Leader Ubi dubium ibi libertas *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 09-04-03 Location: Boston, MA, USPRA Posts: 5,124	A lot of cold countries in the top 10. __________________ "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have." "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" NEVER FORGET

09-11-2005, 07:51 AM	#13 (permalink)
Aryan Banished Join Date: 05-02-04 Posts: 1,532	I'd rather not go through the hassle of 6 years of medical school and god knows what else if I could just get the same salary working as a taxi driver... And how was my explanation wrong? It is pretty straightforward. The HDI index is based on, among other things basic health indicators such as child mortality rates. If America could force all its doctors and nurses to work on half their current salary, they could increase the amount of doctors without increasing the size of the health budget. Not very ethical, but it is effective at making a country more healthier. Granted there are other factors involved, but the fact of the matter is no one here is going to want to live in a country where u'd get hung by the balls for not liking the leader. Last edited by Aryan : 09-11-2005 at 08:05 AM.

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Aryan Banished Join Date: 05-02-04 Posts: 1,532	Australia is a great country to live in, but it would be odd having the seasons in reverse... The only reason Cuba ranks so highly is because they churn out thousands of doctors every year who end up getting paid less the taxi drivers. Its doing well because it can force people to work cheaply, not because its a fantastic place to live...

09-11-2005, 13:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
bonehead *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 01-12-05 Posts: 1,913	The A.M.A. has us by the balls due to their strict quotas of doctors and medical equipment. This guarentees the doctors and MRI machines will be busy while the patients wait. Have you ever noticed that if you miss an appointment you can still be billed for it yet if the doctor misses your appointment(good reason or not) you are not compensated. The A.M.A holds all the cards and nothing short of a full fledged revolt will change things. There are doctor and nurse shortages in many areas. Not because of lack of qualified people who want to get into those fields, but because of the pitifully few med schools and training centers that will never catch up to demand. Some schools want to increase enrollment but the A.M.A says "Nope. Any unautherized increase will jepordize accreditation. On the other hand, we are awash in lawyers which creates nightmares for our judicial system.(too many stupid law suits and lawyers wanting to litigate everything into the ground whether it needs to get litigated or not. Their, "I need a new beemer so lets go litigate something" mentality is costing us millions. I have talked to a few people who escaped cuba. They felt cuba was a great place to live except for one thing. Castro and his political system has to go.

09-11-2005, 13:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
gilgamesh *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 09-06-05 Posts: 998 Country:	Dang, I must move to São Tomé and Principe!

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