ELECTION 2008 | The Pub | The Field Mess | The Staff College | Bookmark WAB



Go Back   World Affairs Board > General Forums > World Affairs Board Pub
Register FAQ WAB RSS Feed Forum GuidelinesMembers List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Greetings, and welcome to the World Affairs Board!

The World Affairs Board is one of the premier forums for the discussion of the pressing geopolitical issues of our time. Topics include foreign & defense policy, international security, military developments, weapons proliferation, terrorism, international strategic affairs, and politics. Our membership includes many from military, defense industry, and government backgrounds with expert knowledge on a wide range of topics. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so why not register a World Affairs Board account and join our community today?
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-10-2005, 22:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
THL
Senior Contributor
 
THL's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-23-05
Location: 35 minutes outside Chicago (please don't refer to it as "Chi-Town"...that's annoying)
Posts: 5,711
Country:
Send a message via AIM to THL Send a message via Yahoo to THL
Tattooing Age In Illinois

Quote:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/servic...login.register


Governor kills measure that would allow teens to get tattoos

The Associated Press

August 10, 2005, 5:35 PM CDT

Gov. Rod Blagojevich on Wednesday killed legislation that would have allowed people younger than 21 to get tattoos.

Blagojevich used amendatory veto power to change a bill that lowered the age to 18. He OK'd other parts of the bill that stiffened penalties for people caught tattooing or doing body piercing on people under 21.

``I don't want my daughters to rush to get tattoos on their 18th birthdays,'' Blagojevich said in a prepared statement. ``At that age, most kids are still in high school and don't have the judgment or perspective to decide on something as permanent as tattooing your skin.''

The veto could be reversed this fall if the General Assembly votes to override Blagojevich's action. The bill passed both houses with large enough majorities to reach the three-fifths majority vote required for a veto override.

The other parts of the measure that were approved by Blagojevich include tougher penalties for people who tattoo teens or offer them body piercing. The tougher penalty -- up to $1,000 fine and 364 days in jail -- also applies to allowing anyone younger than 18 to be on the premises of a business that conducts tattooing and body piercing without being accompanied by a parent or guardian.

------

The bill is HB29. On the Net: http://www.ilga.gov
Copyright © 2005, The Associated Press

At the age of 18, a person can enlist in the military, get married (in fact this age may be less than 18), buy cigarettes, be charged as an adult for committing a crime (this age is actually lower in a lot of cases as well) as well as a number of other "adult" actvities. So why not a tattoo? I think it is absurd that a 20 year old person here in Illinois has to have their parent with them when they go to get a tattoo.
__________________
"To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are."-Sholem Asch

"I always turn to the sports page first, which records people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures."-Earl Warren

"I didn't intend for this to take on a political tone. I'm just here for the drugs."-Nancy Reagan, when asked a political question at a "Just Say No" rally

"He no play-a da game, he no make-a da rules."-Earl Butz, on the Pope's attitude toward birth control
THL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2005, 22:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
giggs88
Banished
 
giggs88's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-08-05
Posts: 1,061
That guy is a loser. Sounds like he doesn't want his purdy little daughters to get it or something.

I hope it's not like this in PA. I'm only 17. I can't possibly wait for another 4 years if it's 21.
giggs88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2005, 22:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
Leader
Ubi dubium ibi libertas
Senior Contributor
 
Join Date: 09-04-03
Location: Boston, MA, USPRA
Posts: 5,124
Send a message via AIM to Leader Send a message via MSN to Leader
Nanny government.
__________________
"Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

NEVER FORGET
Leader is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2005, 23:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
TopHatter
Administrator
 
TopHatter's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-03-03
Posts: 9,919
Country:
Send a message via AIM to TopHatter
Hey, if an 18-year old wants to get a tattoo and then has to regret getting it and pony up the grand or so to have to have it removed, that's their business.
The government needs to stay out of stuff like this. 18-years are adults!
(Though I completely support the 21 year old drinking law)
__________________
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.
~John Quincy Adams
TopHatter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2005, 23:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
THL
Senior Contributor
 
THL's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-23-05
Location: 35 minutes outside Chicago (please don't refer to it as "Chi-Town"...that's annoying)
Posts: 5,711
Country:
Send a message via AIM to THL Send a message via Yahoo to THL
Quote:
Originally Posted by giggs88
That guy is a loser. Sounds like he doesn't want his purdy little daughters to get it or something.

I hope it's not like this in PA. I'm only 17. I can't possibly wait for another 4 years if it's 21.

Okay, I am not trying to say that the govenor is a "loser" - I voted for him and I support him - I am only saying that I completely disagree with him on this topic.

There is a sign in the office of the gentleman who did my last tattoo, and it read:

"The difference between tattooed people and non-tattooed people is that tattooed people don't care if you are not tattooed." From my experience - This is very true.
THL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2005, 23:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
Shek
Military Professional
Moderator
 
Join Date: 02-23-05
Location: Krblachistan
Posts: 7,958
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal
At the age of 18, a person can enlist in the military, get married (in fact this age may be less than 18), buy cigarettes, be charged as an adult for committing a crime (this age is actually lower in a lot of cases as well) as well as a number of other "adult" actvities. So why not a tattoo? I think it is absurd that a 20 year old person here in Illinois has to have their parent with them when they go to get a tattoo.
The answer's simple. Join the military, get shipped to Fort Benning, GA, and get your tattoo on Victory Drive. Chances are, you'll have a cooler tattoo that way, anyways, and it will be cheaper. If you outgrow the tattoo while you're still in, you have a chance at getting it removed for free. There's never problems, only solutions
Shek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2005, 23:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
giggs88
Banished
 
giggs88's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-08-05
Posts: 1,061
Quote:
Originally Posted by shek
The answer's simple. Join the military, get shipped to Fort Benning, GA, and get your tattoo on Victory Drive.
That is what I'll be doing. Only, it will be P. Island.
giggs88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2005, 03:22 AM   #8 (permalink)
sparten
Actus Reus
Senior Contributor
 
sparten's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-10-04
Location: You would like to know would'nt you?
Posts: 1,695
Country:
I have a tattoo of a falcon on by left arm and I love it. I am only 20 (17 when I got it).

As for regrets, at the time I got it, a friend went with me to the palour, we had just done "Sound of Music" on stage, and he got a Nazi Swatsika on his left arm. He hates it, his Dad is now posted to our embassy in Germany and he has a big problem everytime he goes to visit his parents.
__________________
"Any relations in a social order will endure if there is infused into them some of that spirit of human sympathy, which qualifies life for immortality." ~ George William Russell
sparten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2005, 08:08 AM   #9 (permalink)
THL
Senior Contributor
 
THL's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-23-05
Location: 35 minutes outside Chicago (please don't refer to it as "Chi-Town"...that's annoying)
Posts: 5,711
Country:
Send a message via AIM to THL Send a message via Yahoo to THL
Quote:
Originally Posted by sparten
I have a tattoo of a falcon on by left arm and I love it. I am only 20 (17 when I got it).

As for regrets, at the time I got it, a friend went with me to the palour, we had just done "Sound of Music" on stage, and he got a Nazi Swatsika on his left arm. He hates it, his Dad is now posted to our embassy in Germany and he has a big problem everytime he goes to visit his parents.

I assume it is a straight black swastika - how hard can that be to cover up? My first was done by hand (I was not known for thinking things through when I was a kid) in a friends living room 14 years ago when I was only 15 - That has long since been covered up. I have no regrets on mine. Maybe I would put them in different places if I could go back now, but I am far from actually regretting them. Contrary to popular belief (and I may be in the minority on this) I have not found that having tattoos out in the open where they can be seen by all has inhibited my life at all, career wise, anyway - I still have a great job with a wonderful company that I know will be around long enough for me to retire from in another 35 years or so (ouch, 35 years, that hurt).
THL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2005, 08:20 AM   #10 (permalink)
Anon
New Member
 
Join Date: 08-03-03
Posts: 0
"The answer's simple. Join the military, get shipped to Fort Benning, GA, and get your tattoo on Victory Drive. Chances are, you'll have a cooler tattoo that way, anyways, and it will be cheaper. If you outgrow the tattoo while you're still in, you have a chance at getting it removed for free. There's never problems, only solutions"

Heh, got mine at Fast Freddies in Columbus.
Anon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2005, 09:02 AM   #11 (permalink)
TopHatter
Administrator
 
TopHatter's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-03-03
Posts: 9,919
Country:
Send a message via AIM to TopHatter
I havent given up on my idea for my beloved THL's next tat.
Maybe something a little less complex than my last idea....
Attached Images
File Type: png Hammer_sickle.png (10.5 KB, 123 views)
TopHatter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2005, 09:23 AM   #12 (permalink)
Shek
Military Professional
Moderator
 
Join Date: 02-23-05
Location: Krblachistan
Posts: 7,958
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by M21Sniper
"The answer's simple. Join the military, get shipped to Fort Benning, GA, and get your tattoo on Victory Drive. Chances are, you'll have a cooler tattoo that way, anyways, and it will be cheaper. If you outgrow the tattoo while you're still in, you have a chance at getting it removed for free. There's never problems, only solutions"

Heh, got mine at Fast Freddies in Columbus.
No ink for me. Also, VD has actually been cleaned up a little. Traffic Light was shut down for a while, Chicksaws went out of business permanently after getting busted for selling liquor to minors twice (what a surprise!). There's a Rite Aid there now. Also, the FEBA has moved in Columbus. Downtime has been cleaned up, but the old Exit 4 (I think it's exit 6 now) now defines the FEBA, and the mall that was there had about a 25% occupancy rate and was being shut down. The old exit 7 (now 10) is booming, with lots of shopping plazas and business going in there. That was in 2000. I'm sure that it's changed even more since then.
Shek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2005, 13:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
Lunatock
Staff Emeritus
 
Lunatock's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-03-03
Location: Southeast Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,505
Country:
Send a message via AIM to Lunatock Send a message via Yahoo to Lunatock
Quote:
Originally Posted by giggs88
That guy is a loser. Sounds like he doesn't want his purdy little daughters to get it or something.

I hope it's not like this in PA. I'm only 17. I can't possibly wait for another 4 years if it's 21.
I think that 18 is the age you can legally get a tattoo in Pennsylvania.
Lunatock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2005, 13:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
Lunatock
Staff Emeritus
 
Lunatock's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-03-03
Location: Southeast Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,505
Country:
Send a message via AIM to Lunatock Send a message via Yahoo to Lunatock
Quote:
Originally Posted by M21Sniper
"The answer's simple. Join the military, get shipped to Fort Benning, GA, and get your tattoo on Victory Drive. Chances are, you'll have a cooler tattoo that way, anyways, and it will be cheaper. If you outgrow the tattoo while you're still in, you have a chance at getting it removed for free. There's never problems, only solutions"

Heh, got mine at Fast Freddies in Columbus.
Got my first one at Skip's Tattoo in downtown Lancaster, got my second and planned a third at Transcending Flesh. TF was even kind enough to do a touchup on the first tat for ten dollars...after the first place did a shitty job on it, and kept making up excuses to not finish it as advertised after only about 2/3 of it took.
Lunatock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2005, 13:39 PM   #15 (permalink)
THL
Senior Contributor
 
THL's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-23-05
Location: 35 minutes outside Chicago (please don't refer to it as "Chi-Town"...that's annoying)
Posts: 5,711
Country:
Send a message via AIM to THL Send a message via Yahoo to THL
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatock
Got my first one at Skip's Tattoo in downtown Lancaster, got my second and planned a third at Transcending Flesh. TF was even kind enough to do a touchup on the first tat for ten dollars...after the first place did a shitty job on it, and kept making up excuses to not finish it as advertised after only about 2/3 of it took.

I can't believe they would not even correct their own work. I have not had to have any of mine touched up yet. My cover up was done about 12 years ago and I was told I may have had to had that one touched up as it was bright colors over black, but it is ok so far. The one I just had done is on the top of my foot (much to TopHats dismay) and I will probably have to have that one touched up eventually from walking and my ankle bending.
THL is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Last WWI Navy vet dies in Md. at age 105 xerxes The World Wars 7 04-03-2007 10:57 AM
Scotland 'to raise smoking age' Ironduke Political Discussions 3 11-23-2006 15:14 PM
Allah and his 9 year old wife vs Sweden Anon Current Affairs 36 03-25-2006 11:11 AM
1st time enlistment age raised to 39 Anon The Western Alliance 16 03-27-2005 23:13 PM
India Lauches Satellite : Edusat blasts off into space age Ray South Asian Defense Topics 1 09-23-2004 05:07 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:06 AM.


Rochen is the business hosting sponsor of World Affairs Board and a provider of reseller web hosting services.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8