Lemonade Stand

[THL]

Originally Posted by Confed999

The actual point of that was Bush supported the Boy Scouts' right to say their members can't be openly gay. I actually see their point, I doubt they could survive the lawsuits from one child molesting scout master.

I know I have got to be reading this wrong (please tell me I am reading this wrong) and it is not being implied that gay scout masters would be more apt to molest a child than straight ones.

[Confed999]

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

I know I have got to be reading this wrong (please tell me I am reading this wrong) and it is not being implied that gay scout masters would be more apt to molest a child than straight ones.

Nope, if they knew he was gay, and they let him take kids into the woods, there isn't a jury around that would not find the Scouts at fault. It really has nothing to do with anything else, though I'm sure someone who already likes boys would be the most likely to sleep with a boy.

[TopHatter]

Originally Posted by Confed999

Except the ACLU made it a political issue with their suits. The legislature just passed a law that over rules the judical decision to stop Boy Scout use of public land.

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=15598

Note the vote, 98-0. Even the left supports the Scouts in reality...

The ACLU.....

Just thinking about them makes me want to spit.

I recall reading about a....reporter, I think, and his wife at an airport. She was stopped and searched, and....not sure how to put this....I guess they touched her chest (there was more than that I know) while searching her and by the end of it, she was in tears. I guess the husband exploded in fury (brilliant strategy Napoleon!) and was denied boarding. I know I am missing a lot of the details.
Her and her husband went to the ACLU and were told "Sorry, can't help you....basically because you're middle class and white."

I support a strong airport inspection procedure but I think this went too far and of course the righteously indignant husband made it 10x worse by raging at the airport people. Even so, where was the ACLU to be found? "Don't care"

[THL]

Originally Posted by Confed999

though I'm sure someone who already likes boys would be the most likely to sleep with a boy.

I am trying so hard to resist coming back at this with the comment "Like Catholic priests, for example?" because I know that the priests accused do not represent the majority of priests in the Catholic church. Just as pedophiles do not represent the majority of gay men.

[THL]

Originally Posted by TopHatter

I support a strong airport inspection procedure but I think this went too far and of course the righteously indignant husband made it 10x worse by raging at the airport people.

If men and women getting felt up at the airport would give me an even better chance at getting to my destination safely, then bring - it - on!

[Confed999]

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

I am trying so hard to resist coming back at this with the comment "Like Catholic priests, for example?"

Imagine how much the suits would have been for if they had let openly gay priests handle the little boys! The Catholic church's actual problem was the cover-ups. I'm doubtful the Boy Scouts would be party to any cover-up.

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

I know that the priests accused do not represent the majority of priests in the Catholic church. Just as pedophiles do not represent the majority of gay men.

But the numbers aren't really the issue...

[TopHatter]

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

I am trying so hard to resist coming back at this with the comment "Like Catholic priests, for example?" because I know that the priests accused do not represent the majority of priests in the Catholic church. Just as pedophiles do not represent the majority of gay men.

Yeah, I gotta give you that one.

On the other hand, back in high school (lo those many years ago), if I knew that one of the male gym teachers was gay, I probably would have been livid at having him the locker room. I have no problem at all with gays, but just like me blithely wandering around the girl's locker room (ahhh such nice dreams), I also feel that there are certain places that hypothetical gym teacher should not be.

Come to think of it, back in junior high, there was a social studies teacher and a math teacher that we all thought were gay (I guess those 2 and another teacher all lived together). At the time, I dismissed it as preteen foolishness and rumor-mongering....even though the math teacher was a rather swishy fellow who talked with a distinct lisp.
About 5 years after getting out of junior high, it turns out that the social studies teacher was arrested for molesting two of his students (brothers, in fact) in his home. After the story came out and the two boys were publicly identified, those 2 poor kids were put through hell by their supposed friends and peers.
Their mom actually thought their classmates would rally around her sons. Naive...so naive

[Confed999]

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

If men and women getting felt up at the airport would give me an even better chance at getting to my destination safely, then bring - it - on!

Actually sounds like a chance to get felt up to me. A big "bonus" for air travelers.

[THL]

Originally Posted by Confed999

Actually sounds like a chance to get felt up to me. A big "bonus" for air travelers.

Fly The Friendly Skies

[TopHatter]

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

If men and women getting felt up at the airport would give me an even better chance at getting to my destination safely, then bring - it - on!

Well, as the article (written by a woman ) said "Women's breasts are sensitive and women are sensitive about their breasts.

Still and all, from what the article said, this was uncalled for and I do think that the TSA has taken things too far. They must have cleaned house though, because you never hear about that stuff anymore.

Myself, I don't mind being searched, just wish it could be by a woman

Come to think of it, the last time I flew, I ran into an former female co-worker who is now working for the TSA as an inspector. I quietly asked her for a strip-search.
She regretted to inform me that that was not possible

[THL]

Originally Posted by TopHatter

On the other hand, back in high school (lo those many years ago), if I knew that one of the male gym teachers was gay, I probably would have been livid at having him the locker room. I have no problem at all with gays, but just like me blithely wandering around the girl's locker room (ahhh such nice dreams), I also feel that there are certain places that hypothetical gym teacher should not be.

I have let this one sit overnight before responding to see how I felt. The "Can't We All Just Get Along, Flower Power, I Believe People Are Generally Good & Wholesome" side of me is saying that we absolutely should not ban a hypothetical gay male wrestling coach, for example, from the boys locker room anymore than we should ban a hypothetical straight male boys wrestling coach from the locker room. Then I think, what if that hypothetical wrestling coach were a straight female? Would she wander through the locker room giving pep talks and being all 'Vince Lombardi' while the boys were changing?...Probably not.

We also, however, open a whole new can of peanuts at the idea of asking teachers if they are gay or straight to determine when they can be around the students and when they cannot be around the students.

It's too bad that the twisted, sick, pedophile community cannot just wear signs that say "Beware: I Am A Pedophile" so that we can more easily identify them.

[TopHatter]

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

"Can't We All Just Get Along, Flower Power, I Believe People Are Generally Good & Wholesome"

Ah yes, the fondest hope of every liberal

You forgot the campfire, S'mores, Kumbaya, and bales of Mary Jane

I'm of the "people are generally good" opinion, most of the time, but "wholesome"? Not a chance

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

Then I think, what if that hypothetical wrestling coach were a straight female? Would she wander through the locker room giving pep talks and being all 'Vince Lombardi' while the boys were changing?...Probably not. .

I could but wish that would have been the case back in high school...though if a woman really did walk in while we were changing, we probably would have been diving into lockers and such.
Nowadays however, my reaction would be a bit different

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

It's too bad that the twisted, sick, pedophile community cannot just wear signs that say "Beware: I Am A Pedophile" so that we can more easily identify them.

Those signs would also be a good aiming point for a full magazine of 7.62mm fired at them, with extreme predjudice.