Lemonade Stand

[THL]

Originally Posted by Leader

It's a lemonade stand! Kids set them up on their front lawns. It's for fun! It not like this is a permanent thing. Most of them are made out of a cardboard box or some such and are up for a day. This isn't some grand conspiracy.

Thank You!!

Now just beside us, we had Baskin Robbins and KFC and though they made quite a bit of sale they weren't happy like us.

Do you think this "incident" affected KFC or Baskin Robbins stock for the day? It is not as though these companies are now in any sort of financial distress because your profit margin was better than theirs. The same with these kids - people, leave them alone - they are selling lemonade on their front lawns. They are not fortune 500 companies, they are 11 year old boys. They could be out stealing and doing drugs and marking graffiti all over the town of Salem, instead they are finding something constructive to do with their time...don't charge them for that.

I don't think she's really a liberal, I think she's just messing with Hat.

Though I always enjoy playing games with TopHat - - and I have admitted to not being as far left as some ( Mr. Moore, for example ) I am still playing left field. I may rendezvous with the center fielder on occasion, but I always come back home.

[Confed999]

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

I am still playing left field.

Every post I've seen from you, puts you center or even right of center, in my book.

[TopHatter]

Originally Posted by Confed999

Every post I've seen from you, puts you center or even right of center, in my book.

That's my girl gents. Eat your heart out.

[THL]

Originally Posted by TopHatter

That's my girl gents. Eat your heart out.

<as I roll my eyes> TopHat - please, I am about to cut down this pedestal...

Every post I've seen from you, puts you center or even right of center, in my book.

Just because I have my own thoughts, does not make me any less a liberal. The things that keep me from changing to center field; the things that I disagree with the most, happen to also be the things that are most important to me and the things that I most want to protect.

[Confed999]

Originally Posted by TopHatter

That's my girl gents. Eat your heart out.

Nah, I'm happy for ya!

[Confed999]

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

<as I roll my eyes> TopHat - please, I am about to cut down this pedestal...

It's a compliment. It just means he cares.

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

Just because I have my own thoughts, does not make me any less a liberal.

I'm just saying I haven't seen you post any liberal thoughts yet.

[THL]

Originally Posted by Confed999

I'm just saying I haven't seen you post any liberal thoughts yet.

You are correct. I have yet to have come across a topic here that brings out my "true leftness". To be honest - I am actually embarrassed at the idea of the stereotypical hollywood leftists, including Mr. Moore and his facade, representing the all of us. I could not even imagine being that ignorant and lost...and then there is Rush Limbaugh. I would be equally embarrassed, possible more so, to have people affiliate my thoughts and beliefs with that clown as well.

Since I cannot be a far left or a far right, that has me near the middle. (I want to say here that I am basing my thoughts on the last two elections of GW Bush since Clinton was in office prior to that and I was too young to vote and too lost to care before Clinton). Conservative Republican views on stem-cell research, abortion, gay rights and the emphasis of religion in society (Christianity) are what keeps me slightly to the left. The Conservative views on these topics are what I do not agree with, cannot back and hope can be eliminated in the future.

[TopHatter]

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

(I want to say here that I am basing my thoughts on the last two elections of GW Bush since Clinton was in office prior to that and I was too young to vote and too lost to care before Clinton).

Nothing to worry about that. Besides, from my point of view, the youth of America was too lost to care during Clinton's tenure.

The 90s were....yeah

Gawd, and people were embarrassed about the 70s...

[Confed999]

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

embarrassed, possible more so, to have people affiliate my thoughts and beliefs

It's ok, both extremes would be embarased by association with your position too... And mine, and most peoples.

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

views on stem-cell research

Personally I like this one. I'm not really for spending federal money to make companies rich.

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

abortion

I'm stuck on this one, I'm pro-choice but anti-abortion. It's quite confusing...

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

gay rights

From what I can tell, Bush and Clinton were on the same page with this one. Both offered civil unions but weren't prepared to use the religious term "marriage". I like to err on the side of freedom, thus I support both Bill and George on this one.

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

the emphasis of religion in society

I see that as a Constitutional issue. Religion in society is an important freedom, one to be protected at any cost...

BTW, I'm a Libertaian, but I think even they are too socialized. Scarry huh?

[Asim Aquil]

I'm stuck on this one, I'm pro-choice but anti-abortion. It's quite confusing...

In a way anti-abortion, is pro-choice.

[Leader]

Originally Posted by Asim Aquil

In a way anti-abortion, is pro-choice.

Deep...

[THL]

Originally Posted by Confed999

From what I can tell, Bush and Clinton were on the same page with this one. Both offered civil unions but weren't prepared to use the religious term "marriage". I like to err on the side of freedom, thus I support both Bill and George on this one.

What I meant here was in the last election Kerry was more liberal (go figure) about gay relationships. While he also did not support "marriage", he was more "for" civil unions in regards to the benefits that couples get. Now, I did disagree with Kerry in that he thought that the "Don't ask, don't tell" policy should not be in effect - I personally don't think that anyone should be asking or telling...or caring what anyone else is or is not doing in that regard, or how it is being done for that matter. Bush was against gays in the boy scouts - which I just think is bizarre to even mention specifically.

I see that as a Constitutional issue. Religion in society is an important freedom, one to be protected at any cost...

Religion should be protected. But GW Bush is for religion based therapy and programs for criminals and addicts and I don't think that the government should be trying to rehabilitate people with religion.


The other point was that Bush wanted to emphasize and push abstinence while Kerry was for family planning programs and education. I don't think that only pushing abstinence is a realistic approach to todays youth.

[Confed999]

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

Bush was against gays in the boy scouts - which I just think is bizarre to even mention specifically.

The actual point of that was Bush supported the Boy Scouts' right to say their members can't be openly gay. I actually see their point, I doubt they could survive the lawsuits from one child molesting scout master. Personally I'm all for private clubs' right to say who can be a member and who cannot.

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

But GW Bush is for religion based therapy and programs for criminals and addicts and I don't think that the government should be trying to rehabilitate people with religion.

I'm actually for both, whatever works.

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

The other point was that Bush wanted to emphasize and push abstinence while Kerry was for family planning programs and education.

Again, I'm for both. Though, I do not know where any of the more "liberal" side's programs were replaced with the more "conservative" side's.

[TopHatter]

Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal

Bush was against gays in the boy scouts - which I just think is bizarre to even mention specifically.

I have to go with Bush on that one for the reason Confed mentioned, since it is a private organization and it does have it's own charter and oath to abide by.

On the other hand, I think he ought to have kept his opinion to himself, as a politician, since it is a private organization and not governmental

[Confed999]

Originally Posted by TopHatter

On the other hand, I think he ought to have kept his opinion to himself, as a politician, since it is a private organization and not governmental

Except the ACLU made it a political issue with their suits. The legislature just passed a law that over rules the judical decision to stop Boy Scout use of public land.

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=15598

Note the vote, 98-0. Even the left supports the Scouts in reality...