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    Amelia Earhart found?

    I was a bit shocked when my wife mentioned "Did you hear they think they found Amelia Earhart?" I'd have thought it'd be bigger news. Alas, there is strong evidence right now, but not conclusive proof. Hopefully, the proof will come in July.

    Earhart and her navigator disappeared in 1937 during an equatorial crossing of the Pacific. Initial searches found little, yet there were radio distrss calls that were later shrugged off as spurious, or bogus.

    "Amelia Earhart did not simply vanish on July 2, 1937. Radio distress calls believed to have been sent from the missing plane dominated the headlines and drove much of the U.S. Coast Guard and Navy search," Ric Gillespie, executive director of TIGHAR, told Discovery News.

    "When the search failed, all of the reported post-loss radio signals were categorically dismissed as bogus and have been largely ignored ever since," he added.
    Experts find credible calls from Amelia Earhart - Technology & science - Science - DiscoveryNews.com - msnbc.com

    TIGHAR researchers found an anti-freckle cream bottle, broken into five pieces, on Nikumaroro Island, Discovery News reported. When those fragments were reassembled, they made up a nearly complete bottle, identical in shape to the ones used by Dr. C. H Berry's Freckle Ointment. The ointment was marketed in the early 20th century as a concoction guaranteed to make freckles fade, according to Discovery News.

    "It's well documented Amelia had freckles and disliked having them," Joe Cerniglia, the TIGHAR researcher who spotted the freckle ointment as a possible match, told Discovery News.

    These latest findings lead researchers to conclude Earhart and Noonan were low on fuel and unable to find their next scheduled stopping point – Howland Island; they radioed their position before landing on a reef at uninhabited Gardner Island, a small coral atoll now known as Nikumaroro Island.
    Amelia Earhart mystery gets new wings with freckle cream discovery | newjerseynewsroom.com

    Interesting stuff. Hopefully, the upcoming expedition will find the remains of her Lockheed Electra, which was possibly swept off a small atoll by tide or surge.

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    Well, the jar of anti-freckle cream is a good place to start. But Amelia wasn't the only woman in the world to use it. Then again, how many women were ever on a totally unihabited island that used that cream?

    If it was a crash landing, there MUST be parts of that Lockheed SOMEWHERE. Most likely they made a water landing (no airfields on an uninhabited island) and what's left of the non-aluminum parts would be well under water -- hopefully not washed away from tides, currents and storms.

    This is a very interesting mystery. Plus, if she and Noonan did land in the surf and they were able to salvage some survival gear (though I don't know if anti-freckle cream would work for sun burn protection) there has to be some evidence of building a shelter, campfires, latrine pit, etc. as well as parts of the plane.

    But then, how does this tie into a photo of Amelia that was found on the body of a Japanese soldier during WW II?

    If they died on that island, where are the bodies? Did they get washed away by high tides? If so, why did the shards of that jar remain?

    It's like a mystery game some people play when presented with vague clues. Such as, here is a body of a person that died of a gunshot wound. There is an exit hole, but no entry hole of the bullet. Then it's turned over to the other game players to write up a solution to the puzzle and the most logical one wins the next beer.
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    Wow , it will certainly clear up an old mystery ,, strange the Japanese soldier with a foto of her tho ?? heres looking forward to the July instalment .


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    Why cant the short word for Japanese be used , yank / limey/frog/poms/ozzy/ paddy /canooks/gooks etc etc seems to be accepted
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    "-----Why cant the short word for Japanese be used , yank / limey/frog/poms/ozzy/ paddy /canooks/gooks etc etc seems to be accepted-------"

    Actually, I don't think the French like being called "Frogs" either. I was also chastised once for calling North Koreans (during the Korean War) "gooks". Military personnel trading bullets with them was fine. But as a young teenager it was considered demeaning.

    J*ps was more commonly used as an abbreviation for "Japanese" and less commonly "Nip" was also used as an abbrevieation for "Nipponese". Interesting as the Japanese name for Japan is Nippon.

    But sense J*p and 'Nip" were intended to be used in a derogatory manner during the war, it is now considered demeaning since Japan has become a great ally including providing coalition forces in the Middle East.

    Same thing with Germans. Derogatory names such as "Huns", "Bosch" and "Krauts" are frowned upon unless you are making a WW II movie where those terms would be historically appropriate.

    By the way, people find it odd that Germans would be called "Huns" in the First World War. Some thought it was just an insult name derived from Atilla the Hun.

    Well, actually it was the Franz Joseph, the Austro-Hungarian Emperor, who started the war. Most of Europe he ruled was the largest version of Hungary after Austria took it back from the Ottoman Turks. Kaiser Wilhelm of Germany didn't come into it until his cousin, Czar Nicholas of Russia, said they would protect Serbia where the assasin of Prinz Ferdinand was from.

    This was also a global size Hatfield and McCoy feud as the King of England was also a cousin to both the Kaiser and the Czar citing Queen Vicoria as their common ancestor.

    In a nutshell, the idenity nouns of "J*p". "Nip", "Hun", "Kraut", "Gook", "Chink", "Rusky", "Camel Jockey", etc. were derived strictly to be derogatory and would be in bad taste to use them in normal conversation today.
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    Ahh , thanks yank ,I hope the kraut admin is ok wiv it ,as yella lovingly calls him


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    When did I ever call the admin a kraut????

    The term "gook" originated during the Korean war as Koreans call their country "Han Guk" (They call America "Mi Guk"). Although it's spelled "Guk", the pronounciation is "Gook".

    There's also credible accounts of how when Koreans saw Americans, the would say , "Mi Guk Sae Rahm" (Korean language for American person), but G.I.'s being G.I.'s just rememebered the first two words and misintrepretated as Me Gook and ran with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFever View Post
    When did I ever call the admin a kraut????

    The term "gook" originated during the Korean war as Koreans call their country "Han Guk" (They call America "Mi Guk"). Although it's spelled "Guk", the pronounciation is "Gook".

    There's also credible accounts of how when Koreans saw Americans, the would say , "Mi Guk Sae Rahm" (Korean language for American person), but G.I.'s being G.I.'s just rememebered the first two words and misintrepretated as Me Gook and ran with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBattleship View Post
    By the way, people find it odd that Germans would be called "Huns" in the First World War.
    In the First World War? The Sun still does that today

    Les boches isn't limited to WW2 btw. It's been in use for 150 years.

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    Back to the original subject. Long before this bottle of cream was found, there were many others who believed that she landed on Gardner's Island. A historian working off of reports of the period as well as some of the received distress signals, has been digging on the island for years. He has found many items such as buttons, little bottles, a makeup pad and vanity. He believes the plane was put down in the shallows surrounding the island and the wave action has dragged the plane out to sea and eventually it probably dropped off the shelf.
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