Faster and fewer if any crashesOriginally Posted by Double Edge
What is it that you want to do?
Final Cut Pro only on Mac, Avid runs like a dog on PC, as does Premier Pro. Photoshop requires more keystrokes, Illustrator likewise etc etc etc
They already are. In three years time virtually all gaming will be $10 or less apps, run on tablets which will them migrate back to big screen and online when manufacturers finally get over their fixation in thinking what they are making is TV's.
Agreed, as long as there are teenagers who like hacking there will be windows based systems.
I'm at a loss to understand what apps you're talking about on windows that you can't get on mac? I do know of a few, some listed above, that you can't get or run properly on windows.Take best of breed when it comes to apps. You use apps, that's what ties you to the platform, nobody gives a fig about the OS it runs on. You want to avoid vendor lock in. Using apple only apps ties you to Apple. The market share is such that Apple will never replace a PC, so tying yourself to a PC is less of a risk.
Next, the selection of apps on a PC is a great deal more than it is on the mac. More specialisation. The same applies to hardware as well, lots of different vendors run windows. In theory you can run OSX on any intel platform but don't hold your breath on driver support. Your hardware choice is de facto apple if not de jure. That comes for a 20% premium.
I was looking for an app to manage media some time back and found an excellent solution from a firm in MN. The Mac equivalent is iTunes which just isn't in the same league. Now to try & get their app to talk to an iPhone and the dev's found they were dealing with encrypted databases. You can try and jailbreak but that isn't legal and invites lawsuits.
Clearly apple wants you to use their apps only. You can get basic stuff done but try to go more specialised and you will find Apple has locks in place to prevent interaction with a non-apple ecosystem.
So people asked for a Mac port, this firm kept running polls to see what the demand would be and it never made sense to do one. This is a question every firm that makes software faces. if you're big you can do it, if you're niche then not. If you're on a mac you face a Hobson's choice.
This sort of lock-in is common. Take the IM world, few years back i had friends on different networks and i did not want to run 5 apps just to keep in touch with them. I stuck with one app that would talk to all of them and in the end it just got too difficult to keep up. Told'em to use email. One more virus vector elliminated i thought.
Put it this way, if you're on a mac, you can get by. But the switching cost ain't worth it if you're on a PC. It does not make sense for an individual let alone corporate. If you're not tied to your apps then you can switch to anything.
Turtle neck's talent laid in spiining a reality distortion field with great presentation to get you to switch to a platform with fewer options. He had the best toys and he had them first before anyone else. All i did was wait for his competition to catch up
Hippies...the lot of you...
Try running Crysis 3 or World of Tanks on Macs. I understand there is a Crysis client for Mac. Let's see how one upgrades the video capability of an older Mac to play Crysis.
Macs are like hybrid cars. Yes, they are easy to operate. But the capital cost is prohibitive to some. And they are more complex to fix than PCs. Ever try to switch a motherboard in a Mac?
"Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
How the heck do you get MS Word to crash ?
Used it since DOS days and never had any when doing reports. Nor have i had any speed issues, see, i was always the slowest link
whatever, whenever. I gave an example of media managers which is where i got to see people wish that app ran on a mac. This is an example of specialisation, when the std won't do and you need something more robust.
There are so many areas where custom applications are required, which platform are you most likely to find them on. If they're web based then there is no issue but web based apps have their limitations too. Was always a thick client fan.
More keystrokes can be handled with macros.
The apps you mention are niche for video handling. If i was doing post production i need Avid.
Running slow, is a question of tweaks, hw as well as software and using workarounds if the vendor isn't cooperative. You will use these tactics in any workflow regardless of app or platform.
Tell you what, if you're used to a mac running those apps a shift might be jarring as it would be going in the opposite direction. I did develop apps for the mac once upon a time, the UI is all nice and you get into a groove. But my work required me to be platform agnostic. There is no one God, you have to make offerings to several as and when required. It was hardest to move off the mac onto other OS's. You start trying to configure the system to make it as mac like as possible and then realise its a losing battle.
heh, this i gotta see to believe. A specialised console platform is to be replaced by a general purpose tablet.
TV was supposed to kill cinema & radio.
PC's were supposed to kill the mainframe
the web was supposed to replace desktop apps as well as kill newspapers
Google thinks it can replace M$
blah blah blah
Hacking means any platform, any language, any OS. The entry point there is cost & accessibilty.
The app i'm referring to is Jrivers media center. There ain't an equivalent app that can touch it in the windows world let alone any other platform.
Last edited by Double Edge; 27 Apr 12, at 03:36.
Well ok since you live in hippie land I will have to take your word for it.Hippies...the lot of you...
Try running Crysis 3 or World of Tanks on Macs. I understand there is a Crysis client for Mac. Let's see how one upgrades the video capability of an older Mac to play Crysis.
Macs are like hybrid cars. Yes, they are easy to operate. But the capital cost is prohibitive to some. And they are more complex to fix than PCs. Ever try to switch a motherboard in a Mac?
I buy Macs because I do not want to have to replace/fix a motherboard or anything else in it. I do not want to deal with any software compatibility issues either. I want to plug the damned thing in and use it for work and play for a decade then upgrade if needed. Since I do not have to fix or buy a lot of software, antivirus or otherwise, my Macs are cost competitive in the long run. One caveat though. I would dearly love to have autocad on my computer but there is no way in hell I am plunking 4K down for that software. It sucks though. I ran 2011 on both platforms but like the Mac autocad better Especially when you get into 3D. Perhaps when I can be assured it will be a tax write off.....
The last time I used word on a PC it crashed about 50% of the time when you hit "print", or whenever I forgot to hit "save" in a reasonable amount of time. That was a long time ago but since I am a slow typist I remember those God awful times and that is also one of the many reasons I am not willingly buying a PC or even using one again if I can help it.How the heck do you get MS Word to crash ?
Used it since DOS days and never had any when doing reports. Nor have i had any speed issues, see, i was always the slowest link
Using windows OS
Do you mean that you'd choose Avid or that only Avid would run on windows?
You don't have kids I take it?
Yes it is, and you get what you pay for.
If you don't like MythTV, Zinc, iTunes, Swinsian or Rhapsody you can always run Parallels. Clunky I know but since it's simply an organiser you won't have speed issues
Then the app has bugs in it. Service packs and ongoing fixes would address it.
I mean most of those apps are available on windows. Avid is.
Final cut pro might not be but that's not to say you cant get by without an equivalent windows app. Whether you choose to do so really depends on the environment you work in. If it's predominantly mac then it makes more sense to use a Mac.
Just saying replacing a dedicated platform with a general purpose one seems like an odd move. There are games that generate very elaborate graphics where are you going to get the horsepower to deliver that. Clearly, there is a niche here for consoles.
Low CPU games is another matter entirely. Older ones etc. Some time back i had a good time with MAME, all those arcade games of the 80s
Open source offers the most freedom here. Free from proprietary formats etc. It costs the least.
MythTV looks a lot better but when you start drilling down the shortcomings start to appear. Myth is more presentation than management. The others are the usual standard offerings. The app i mentioned is something like Aperture is for images but for any media.
Parallels has been mentioned but with media it does not work too well. Emulators are fine with apps that don't task the CPU too much.
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