The Vatican and NASA

**tankie** · 12 Sep 11,, 20:00

Hey Dok how about this one

UFO, Never Doubt Again - YouTube

Or this , weird

NEW SHOCKING NASA UFO FOOTAGE - YouTube

This is obviously a Chinese lantern , orrrr a weather balloon , orrrrrr a hubcap off the shuttle , any second now a scouser will float by to get it

UFO Footage During NASA STS 115 Misson - YouTube

**Dreadnought** · 12 Sep 11,, 21:27

Stop it! Of all the nerve!

You guys all know full well that the Pope was also created in a Hollywood basement just like the Lunar Landings were according to the idiots.

Bet this shot made them scramble for some "credible" excuse.....

BBC News - Probe pictures Moon landing sites

**tankie** · 12 Sep 11,, 21:36

Yea well like i said WAB converted me to a monkee and now , im a believer ,

great pics , but cud they be fakes ,,just sayin JUST SAYIN

**tankie** · 12 Sep 11,, 22:35

I like the vision in this Dave Bowie song ,the part at 54 seconds

David Bowie- Starman - YouTube

**Doktor** · 12 Sep 11,, 23:46

Originally Posted by tankie

I like the vision in this Dave Bowie song ,the part at 54 seconds

David Bowie- Starman - YouTube

You will take him as a proof of aliens? Add Larry King to the list and I am UFO/Alien believer

**Doktor** · 12 Sep 11,, 23:48

Originally Posted by tankie

Hey Dok how about this one

UFO, Never Doubt Again - YouTube

Or this , weird

NEW SHOCKING NASA UFO FOOTAGE - YouTube

This is obviously a Chinese lantern , orrrr a weather balloon , orrrrrr a hubcap off the shuttle , any second now a scouser will float by to get it

UFO Footage During NASA STS 115 Misson - YouTube

What about these? The third is blurred (surprise, even NASA can't fix Auto Focus), the first 2 are moving objects? And?

**Doktor** · 12 Sep 11,, 23:49

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

Stop it! Of all the nerve!

You guys all know full well that the Pope was also created in a Hollywood basement just like the Lunar Landings were according to the idiots.

Bet this shot made them scramble for some "credible" excuse.....

BBC News - Probe pictures Moon landing sites

Pope is Hollywood invention? I thought Coke invented him as well

**tankie** · 13 Sep 11,, 11:37

Originally Posted by Doktor

You will take him as a proof of aliens? Add Larry King to the list and I am UFO/Alien believer

Dont be silly Doktor ,its just a song with maybe vision

Who's Larry King ??

**tankie** · 13 Sep 11,, 11:44

Originally Posted by Doktor

What about these? The third is blurred (surprise, even NASA can't fix Auto Focus), the first 2 are moving objects? And?

And that by the very definition that they are moving and manoeuvring makes them UFO's don't you think ol boy .And maybeeeeeeeee NASA deliberately blurs them until they are ready to show the proof while giving tantalising glimpses to set the seeds

I don't think you will be satisfied until one lands in your garden , but I would love to hear your explanation as to what the moving objects could be

**tankie** · 13 Sep 11,, 12:41

Just for you Doktor and other disbelievers

UFO Crashes into Plane (WARNING: Graphic Footage) - YouTube

**Dreadnought** · 13 Sep 11,, 13:35

During WWII the USN reported encountering certain things at sea that was enough to send them to GQ and fire at them. The USS New York comes to mind but no one ever reported as many claims as the Japanese did at sea. These objects in their case apparently came from the sea and disappeared back into the sea afterwards. You decide......

New Guinea was an early prize for the Japanese army during the early war years, but by July 1944, after brutal to-the-last-man fighting, U.S. Marines recaptured it. By mid-March 1945, New Guinea was under Allied control and considered fairly safe. Close by, after suffering from its intense battle at Iwo Jima, the USS New York was returning to combat duty. Escorted by two destroyers, it set sail to join up with the Seventh Fleet.

The weather that day was sunny and clear. Around 1300 hours general quarters sounded, electrifying the calming nature of the warm sea air. Alert, Corporal Donald Pratt and his crewmembers prepared for an attack by Japanese forces, possibly suicide aircraft. Pratt was a 40mm gunner. He was ready, waiting for the order to fire. Nerves tense, he watched, but the sky was clear. No Japanese planes appeared.

On the New York’s radar, things were different. The radar screen was picking up a single blip. It had appeared out of thin air. Just seconds later, the blip was in view. Cpl. Pratt watched as the object hovered motionless, almost directly over the battleship. Captain K.C. Christian was watching through his binoculars, as were approximately 2,000 other navy crewmen, some with their own binoculars.

The object was “silver in color,” “very shiny” and “did not change colors,” Pratt said. “It was much larger than the brightest star would be, but smaller than a full moon.” Quietly, it continued hovering above them, just matching the New York’s speed and course.

For thirty minutes, the New York and her two escorts anxiously braced themselves for something to happen. The strange object did nothing, but its presence was too much for the naval vessels to stand by and do nothing. Was this a Japanese secret weapon waiting for the right time to strike? Or was it waiting for more of them to show up and attack in number? Captain Christian did not wait to find out. There was no need to receive damage first and then respond, so he ordered a first strike.

Two of the New York’s three-inch antiaircraft guns cut loose on the object, sending a hail of lead arching high into the air. But the object did not move or appear affected by the gunfire. Since it was useless and a waste of ammo, Captain Christian ordered his guns silent. Within seconds of their cease-fire, the object “climbed up at a fantastic rate of speed until it was out of sight, and off the radar scope.” Corporal Pratt said “everyone aboard the ship was stunned by this; they had never seen anything like it.”

The general quarters sounded, and the ships were again alone at sea. The men discussed the incident for days, trying to make sense of what they saw. “Anyhow, we knew, after watching it for a few minutes that it was not any type of plane because our ship was only traveling at around twelve knots,” Pratt explained. “A plane could not travel that slowly without stalling the engine and dropping into the ocean. It was too sunny and bright that day to be a star, and it was not a balloon...not in the middle of the Pacific. We didn’t know what it was...."

**tankie** · 14 Sep 11,, 14:23

Chogy , can I have your take on this one , peeps comments mention f15e strike eagle when it states Migs , and if this is a fake its one of the reasons real ones are laughed at ? This one looks con'vincing

Ufo chased by Russian mig!! Actual footage - YouTube

**tankie** · 14 Sep 11,, 15:40

Anyone heard about the teather ?

UFO VIDEOS - NASA VIDEO FROM SPaCE! - Video

**Chogy** · 15 Sep 11,, 13:30

Originally Posted by tankie

Chogy , can I have your take on this one , peeps comments mention f15e strike eagle when it states Migs , and if this is a fake its one of the reasons real ones are laughed at ? This one looks con'vincing

Ufo chased by Russian mig!! Actual footage - YouTube

That cockpit view does NOT appear to be a MiG-21. My immediate thought was "That's an ACES-II ejection seat" because of the downward-canted pitot tubes at the pilot's head. It looks very much like the view from the back seat of a two-seat F-15, either the B,D, or E model.

Aces-II, note the same pitot tubes:

That doesn't preclude a Russian seat having tubes like that, but they are pretty distinctive. The visibility is too good for a MiG. I don't know what the video really is, but I'd say 95% that "It's NOT a MiG cockpit."

Given that, the whole clip becomes doubtful and probably a fabrication.