Jury Duty

[texasjohn]

Originally Posted by bolo121

Yup, In india medium difficult to bribe judges at high court level and up.
If ordinary citizens were on a jury it would be open season.

That's sad. Isn't there a way to keep them secluded till the trial is over?

I have had to attend jury duty. Luckily, I never got picked.

[Knaur Amarsh]

Originally Posted by texasjohn

That's sad. Isn't there a way to keep them secluded till the trial is over?

That seems rather unrealistic.The cases sometimes go on for decades,how long will the jury be kept under protection?

[glyn]

Originally Posted by Knaur Amarsh

Ah,but you could have had your own reserved parking spot and be called Your Honour......

Not nearly as much fun as donning the black kerchief and intoning "You are to be removed from this place and taken to a place of execution, there to await your fate. May the Lord have mercy on your soul. Take him away!" I'm sure I was meant to be a hanging judge.

[Knaur Amarsh]

Originally Posted by glyn

Not nearly as much fun as donning the black kerchief and intoning "You are to be removed from this place and taken to a place of execution, there to await your fate. May the Lord have mercy on your soul. Take him away!" I'm sure I was meant to be a hanging judge.

Sure not But still,having a title has its own charm
However,is there no chance whatsoever of the death penalty ever being re-instated?

[bolo121]

Originally Posted by texasjohn

That's sad. Isn't there a way to keep them secluded till the trial is over?

I have had to attend jury duty. Luckily, I never got picked.

No way exists. Cases typically last for about 10 to 20 years.
Also they have a stark choice in front of them, either take the money and shut up or have bad things happen to them or their families.

[glyn]

Originally Posted by Knaur Amarsh

Sure not But still,having a title has its own charm
However,is there no chance whatsoever of the death penalty ever being re-instated?

None of the political parties would permit a referendum to be held on the matter, because the public would overwhelmingly demand re-instatement of capital punishment.

[Ironduke]

Suffolk County is 975 square miles with a population of about 1,500,000 but we also have a 2,600 member county police department dont ask why the police and sheriff are separate agencies; politics plays a very big role here) plus about 800 officers employed by 30 or so town and village police departments in addition to a mere handful of New York State Police troopers and New York State Park Police officers.

You have a county police department and a county sheriffs department, both county-wide law enforcement agencies?

[Mobbme]

Mine and my sisters experience:

They sent me a letter notifying me that they MIGHT need me to be a juror. And if needed, they will post another letter informing me that I have been selected ROFL And that second letter never came

My sister actually recieved the 2nd letter and went to attend. The case, however, was finished in the first few mins so my sister returned home.


If you are "randomly" selected to serve in Canada, you HAVE to report in or else there will be some type of punishment: maybe fine or warrant for your arrest

[ChrisF202]

Originally Posted by Ironduke

You have a county police department and a county sheriffs department, both county-wide law enforcement agencies?

Yes but it is kind of complicated. The "county police" department is really only a regional police department that covers towns and villages in the suburban part of the county that dont have a town or village police department. In the rural part of the county every town and village has their own police department and the county sheriff handles specialized services like aviation support, SWAT, K9, marine unit in addition to countywide highway patrol.

It also has alot to do with politics, the county executive cannot fire an elected sheriff when the sheriff does something that he/she disagrees with but they sure can fire and set rules with an appointed police commissioner who is almost always one of their political stooges!

[glyn]

Originally Posted by ChrisF202

Yes but it is kind of complicated. The "county police" department is really only a regional police department that covers towns and villages in the suburban part of the county that dont have a town or village police department. In the rural part of the county every town and village has their own police department and the county sheriff handles specialized services like aviation support, SWAT, K9, marine unit in addition to countywide highway patrol.

It also has alot to do with politics, the county executive cannot fire an elected sheriff when the sheriff does something that he/she disagrees with but they sure can fire and set rules with an appointed police commissioner who is almost always one of their political stooges!

The constabulary should have absolutely nothing to do with politics. They must be seperate entities.

[ChrisF202]

Originally Posted by glyn

The constabulary should have absolutely nothing to do with politics. They must be seperate entities.

Sadly, here in the US at every level of law enforcement on the federal, state, county and local level politics is the biggest player in how things are done, what laws are ignored, who gets promoted, etc

[texasjohn]

Originally Posted by bolo121

No way exists. Cases typically last for about 10 to 20 years.
Also they have a stark choice in front of them, either take the money and shut up or have bad things happen to them or their families.

That's a pretty gloomy picture you painted my friend. Is this the famous "red tape" everyone hears about?

This would imply that the rule of law exists only on paper but not in real life. That is scary.

Your thoughts on this?

[Gun Grape]

Originally Posted by bolo121

No way exists. Cases typically last for about 10 to 20 years.
Also they have a stark choice in front of them, either take the money and shut up or have bad things happen to them or their families.

How do you decide a verdict on a case that you have been hearing evidence on for 10 years?

Thats outrageous.

The question has to be asked. Why? What case takes 10-20 years of trial?

The longest trial in US history was a little over 3 years.

Kemner v. Monsanto The longest civil jury trial in U.S. history, this case ran from February 1984 through October 1987. The case involved a group of plaintiffs who claimed to have been poisoned by dioxin in a 1979 chemical spill that occurred in Sturgeon, Missouri. The trial – expected to last nine to 12 months – spanned more than 600 days in court and included 200 witnesses, 90,000 pages of trial transcripts, 6,000 exhibits and 9,000 evidentiary rulings. The already complex case was further complicated by a ruling that allowed 65 plaintiffs – with a wide range of claims ranging from infected mosquito bites to headaches, high blood pressure, kidney failure and leukemia.

[Knaur Amarsh]

The question has to be asked. Why?

Too many pending cases,not enough judges,red-tapism,witnesses turning hostile......

[bolo121]

Originally Posted by texasjohn

That's a pretty gloomy picture you painted my friend. Is this the famous "red tape" everyone hears about?

This would imply that the rule of law exists only on paper but not in real life. That is scary.

Your thoughts on this?

The main reason is that the judiciary is too small and overburdened. Politicians dont allow it to be expanded nor do they allow new laws to be passed.
Also police very understrength and again no expansion on the cards.
As most politicians have cases pending against them, they like the system to be choked as it is now.