British Colonialism

**Officer of Engineers** · 21 Feb 08,, 04:39

Originally Posted by T_igger_cs_30

So given India has the same choice, and they have not disbanded those regiments, then they have accepted there history......correct?

I would have to say the history and responsibility of those regiments belong to India ... as with the case of all our regiments.

**Blademaster** · 21 Feb 08,, 04:39

Originally Posted by T_igger_cs_30

So given India has the same choice, and they have not disbanded those regiments, then they have accepted there history......correct?

You can accept it implicitly but you may not necessarily feel as those history belong to you.

It would have been great if at the time of Independence, those regiments were disbanded and new regiments created but the necessity of survival and prudence took precedence over the desire of starting afresh. Nonetheless, Nehru did disbanded some regiments and kept some. IIRC, He disbanded the regiment that was responsible for the massacre at Jallianwalla Bagh.

**Officer of Engineers** · 21 Feb 08,, 04:43

So the GoI accept the responsibility and the history of the regiments that she has not disbanded?

**Officer of Engineers** · 21 Feb 08,, 04:44

Again, not trying to put you on the spot but want your legal viewpoint on this.

**Blademaster** · 21 Feb 08,, 04:45

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Hitesh,

The good Captain, Lemontree, had responded that those spoils were the property of the regiments and not of the GoI (ie, private property, hey, it's your country - explain it to me) and hence, Dehli is in no position to offer it's return.

It is the property of the regiments but the regiments itselves belong to GoI so you could say the GoI made that excuse as a cover or a smokescreen.

**Blademaster** · 21 Feb 08,, 04:49

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Again, not trying to put you on the spot but want your legal viewpoint on this.

The legal viewpoint, using the business example, would be that once you assume the company, you assume its liabilities and lawsuits. That's common law in US. However there are some instances where you take over a company, you reserve that your parent company are not itself responsible for certain actions or lawsuits that were pending prior to takeover of the company. Applying this logic, you could say that once India became independence, it expressed reservations on certain actions that the regiments under the British crown took.

However, business law and international law are very different beasts. I am not well versed in the law of nations, military law or international law.

**T_igger_cs_30** · 21 Feb 08,, 04:51

Originally Posted by Blademaster

I am not well versed in the law of nations, military law or international law.

The Crown is ........

**Blademaster** · 21 Feb 08,, 04:53

Originally Posted by T_igger_cs_30

The Crown is ........

Yes it is because they were the ones that created it and forced it upon the rest of the world. US came along and tweaked it somewhat and enforced it against everyone else but itself.

**T_igger_cs_30** · 21 Feb 08,, 04:54

Originally Posted by Blademaster

Yes it is because they were the ones that created it and forced it upon the rest of the world. US came along and tweaked it somewhat and enforced it against everyone else but itself.

So cynical for one so young...................India I mean

**Officer of Engineers** · 21 Feb 08,, 05:02

Originally Posted by Blademaster

Yes it is because they were the ones that created it and forced it upon the rest of the world. US came along and tweaked it somewhat and enforced it against everyone else but itself.

And yet, India has decided to keep the British Army Regiments while also honouring the National Indian Army who was by definition traitors to India.

You sure you want to be a lawyer? I think you and I (how about giving me a time when you decide to come north, and let's hook up with many as possible ... I'm thinking Calgary - with the Sgt-Maj ... and Glyn and Dave Lukins if we get our timings right) need a few scotches for you to explain this one over (and bring your pills).

**~~gamercube~~** · 21 Feb 08,, 05:07

So cynical for one so young...................India I mean

You're joking right? India had glorious empires when Europeans were still living in caves. India is not just a country-it is a 5000 year old civilization, still retaining much of its same identity, culture and traditions. Only the Chinese civilization rivals India. The same can't be said about a lot of other countries in the world.

**T_igger_cs_30** · 21 Feb 08,, 05:11

Originally Posted by gamercube

You're joking right? India had glorious empires when Europeans were still living in caves. India is not just a country-it is a 5000 year old civilization, still retaining much of its same identity, culture and traditions. Only the Chinese civilization rivals India. The same can't be said about a lot of other countries in the world.

Trout and may comes to mind

Ok , I know that and you know that so why do "some" keep harping on as if you have only been around since 1947?............and may I ask is that glorious 5000year history blemish free?

**T_igger_cs_30** · 21 Feb 08,, 05:14

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

And yet, India has decided to keep the British Army Regiments while also honouring the National Indian Army who was by definition traitors to India.

You sure you want to be a lawyer? I think you and I (how about giving me a time when you decide to come north, and let's hook up with many as possible ... I'm thinking Calgary - with the Sgt-Maj ... and Glyn and Dave Lukins if we get our timings right) need a few scotches for you to explain this one over (and bring your pills).

Calgary works for me , but willing to travel farther afield for good company, discussion and scotch

**Blademaster** · 21 Feb 08,, 05:17

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

And yet, India has decided to keep the British Army Regiments while also honouring the National Indian Army who was by definition traitors to India.

You sure you want to be a lawyer? I think you and I (how about giving me a time when you decide to come north, and let's hook up with many as possible ... I'm thinking Calgary - with the Sgt-Maj ... and Glyn and Dave Lukins if we get our timings right) need a few scotches for you to explain this one over (and bring your pills).

I will definitely come after I pass my Bar Exam and get a full time paying job. Canada is my next trip overseas.

**Parihaka** · 21 Feb 08,, 05:20

Originally Posted by gamercube

You're joking right? India had glorious empires when Europeans were still living in caves. India is not just a country-it is a 5000 year old civilization, still retaining much of its same identity, culture and traditions. Only the Chinese civilization rivals India. The same can't be said about a lot of other countries in the world.

Riiight, so you haven't heard of the Trypillyan civilisation then? 6000 years ago?