Why , since Korea, our military ? But we could win if we remember

[Polybius]

Before Korea
Military mission to win and be nice later after winning
Since Korea, be nice, be constrain,
Before Korea, go all the way, Since Korea, we can go all the way, destroy the sources of supplies , we change the rule of engagement.
Vietnam good example, we could not cross Parallel 38, We could not invade North Vietnam and destroy their sources of supply. and military center . But North Vietnam was free to invade South Vietnam
Bombing never have prove effective in most war cases to defeat the enemy. It did not work with Britain, or Germany or Japan during WWII ( until the A bomb ) Ground troops then and now ( Iraq, Afghanistan great examples ) still makes the big difference.
All the bombing in Vietnam, full of forest , military speaking was a waste, but ground troops heading occupying Hanoi, and ships not just bombing but transporting sailor to land on Haipang and march on Hanoi could had make a big difference.
Detente was a failure
So while people praise the VietCong determination, despite bombing they forget basic military historical precedents validate with recent experiences.
But America for whatever reason suffer from a mental trauma , we have led to believe that our might fail, not what fail was bad planning and bad execution and worse ignoring historical military precedent

Lets face the truth. Generals, like Sherman , Grant, , such as Patton , Mac Arthur, Admirals like Nimitz , they earned their stars with a long record of achievement. They showed a great respect for our American military tradition. They were not career , self promoter warriors.They really respected our arm forces .
They were real warrior, they possess a great record of proven war experiences and achievements.
In my view , we respect our institutions be military or civil when we can prove that we earn our stirrups . We record of achievements

Our military is honor and as our civil institutions with individuals who proof themselves up to the task they talk the talk but also walk the walk
like our former, late president Ronald Reagan, last great president of our time.
What record of achievement our generals , admirals have to show. What list of military victories to deserve so many stars , so much rank so much admiration .EVen Colin Powell, War Gulf I , besides that what other major list of operation he has. and the late Admiral Crowe, can the show in their records , list of military achievements.
Contrast with generals from the past, Sherman, Grant, Patton, Mac Arthur, Nimitz the Caliber of our present general, admirals
Our army victory depends of having high caliber, high achievers but
Can we say the same thing about today
Why is crucial because America is facing a terrible cultural, political , military , economical war for our survival , fought internally and externally ? While Patton , Mac Arthur had the gravitas and the leadership to take us into victory . and Theodore Roosevelt or Franklin D. Roosevelt who was a different kind of Democrat most like a Reagan Republican, ( in the military issues ) not a James Carter, Mc Govern, or CLinton, Obama, Rangel and company led us into victory .
Our present leadership both Democrat , Republican , military and civilian seems to lack so
This constructive criticism is not about
And this is not attacking our institutions be the military or our civilians but to preserve them waking up our officials and military to remind them about the former proven records of achievements , patriotism of their predecessor and their duty to preserve maintain and improve such record. Honor is walking the walk not just wearing the clothes

[ChrisF202]

I agree 100%

If were going to fight a war then we need to fight it to the end and inflict as much damage as we can to bring about that end. There is no point to fighting a war if we are going to have one hand (or in the case of Iraq both hands) tied behind our backs.

[Polybius]

And Yes, and since Korea, we have not been allow to win

We have fight with the hands tie (
But the repercussion is beyond the material
Such policies keep helping

to undermine our self confidence to make a large per cent of Americans that we lost
Due to lack of morality and our cause is wrong?
And in order to win wars, Winning the Moral High Ground , is vital
Americans even ' new conservative, Republicans , Americans had been brain washed to feel that we are as immoral than the others. I heard new Young Republicans arguments and feel morally defensive and guilt
despite trying to defend but they clearly feel morally in shaky ground

Until we do not confront the issue and stop be p.c and demand for civilians and military past and present ( if they are alive) to come forward and assume responsability , and ( those who die) we should bring up again their past actions( I respect the disease and I believe to leave the memories of those who died to rest ) but this is issue larger than any of us, live or alive. The survival of America is on stake and Regaining the Moral High Ground,
weaken in our American psyche by the Vietnam drama had infected America
it is crucial
We regardless of how uncomfortable and painful we feel and remorseful
to bring up the past and to event confront the mistakes of those who die to do so .
Only Confronting the Past, we can Free ourselves and Bring Light into the Shadows of the Present and Win the future



Vietna

[dalem]

When you don't use proper punctuation, the terrorists win.

-dale

[astralis]

not every war is a world war.

[mike nickeas]

[Feanor]

Originally Posted by astralis

not every war is a world war.

But every war costs lives. Win faster = lower the cost (for yourself at least).

[Dwarven Pirate]

How is US' hands tied in Iraq?

Also, I dont understand your criticisms of current armed service leaders. What gain is there in saying they are no good compared to those of ww2 and the civil war? Do you have some alternatives in mind or something?

If I understand correctly, you are saying that we need more ground troops and better leaders. But our leaders are the leaders we have, are they not, and we haven't more ground troops without a draft, unless you wish to give up our other strategic interests around the world.

[Polybius]

Contradictory? or not?
Imperialistic Ideologies keep conduct wars, kill people but the non war, against violence crowed not only are their fan, cheerleaders, and embrace a
insensitive, violent, destructive, state police, Big Brother, or Islamfacism , despite its qualities of be states feudal lord like who treated or treat their countrymen as new serfs , gloated with priviledges and forcing the population into a personality cult, rivalling the one
who Pharaoh, Despot such as absolute rulers received according to history

be Lenin, Mao in the past or any Anti Western tyrant in the present .
And Mao, Gromyko , Mugambe, Khadafy, etc have a proven record, Check Human Rights Watch , Freedom House etc of killing , torturing and conducting wars

Exactly war cost lives, silence from the Western peace and tolerance had a proven track record to increase the death toll, because embolden tyrants and brings wars faster into explosion. Tyranies who harass with police states their people, they lack the moral conscience to respect anyone and they are like bullies but more machievillica.
But the peace crowd in the West, never scandalize or give a penny of attention to such behavior but such crowd break the silence asking us peace peace, peace Peace, Peace like Charbelain of course as they refrain to demand the same from their friends , such as Anti Western regimes it is clear that they do not want peace but are willing members of the team wh serve the Colonial Imperialist interest of those Anti Western ideologies

I do not like violence, I do not like torture, I do not like war
I love peace , freedom and liberty, in our imperfect world , America is unrival
Ibut I know that talk never stop Colonial Powers, or Imperialist ideologues, neither stop the imperialist Islam, only war and decline in military power and confrontation
Neither Comunist Imperialism ever was stop with talks , Detente a historical proof of failure , so all the treaties broken by Soviets, Maoists and all Communist with the West, so the Palestians hold a record of unbroken promises too and unreliabilty and double standards
When Palestinian kills Palestinian including children, the Muslim war silence the Peace and Reconciliation world wide ( West ) silence
Only the life of child becomes important for such Peace lover , if the child is kill by the right " perpretaror ? So facing the choice to be conquer or to fight back and sometimes playing defense is not enough to prevent to become part of Animal Farm, Brave New World or to fight
living in a Orwellian society is an horror ,in an environment full of cynicism without any soul , where people are rob of their self respect, turn into fearful serfs of the new ruling class and force to act as compliant beast, participating in lynching, torture and even death for fear
Hundred of millions of people experience validates such facts
Check Amnesty International records, Human Right Watch , Freedom House,
and other HUman Rights organizations
Confront the record of actions by

Comunist ideology,
Continous War to impose Marxist Ideology
Islam, domination over all
So
we can choose to fight or not to fight,
If we do not fight ,
how Imperialist , Colonial ideologies can be stop because they have proof be more than willing to kill and conduct warfare , killing people, imprisioning people, torturing people without any accountability or exposure ( in contrast with what happens in Iraq or Guantanamo , in where the behavior was exposed and morally condemned) be guerilla, conventional, etc in order to follow their ideologies

And I repeat more than once because I know that many played the deaf, mute and blind

[Polybius]

Someone do a great job
someone else has the same title and do worse
How to measure performance and rise expectation ,
Using Role models
Like in school, decades ago, our schoold spent less money
but Johnny was able to read, write, add , multiply, learn square roots, exponents , performance pre calculus , logariths operations before he graduated from high school

A step in the right direction is confront our school system with the contrast in order to find why our education system is not working today despite the massive infusion of billions of dollar
So confronting our military and civilians authorities with their performances
measuring with great performance is a positive step

America is full of talented people, people who are blessed to do great job performance both in the civilian an military sector
So why anyone can say that we not other people
only the one that at in charge now?
it is a issue of life and death and we are fighting for our lives

People do not realize that our system in danger , first, we lack self confidence
in our system, second our economical, cultural wholesomeness is gone

So we, as citizen , are responsible for demand accountability