“French Security”

Leader · 12-05-2004, 00:54 AM

French police misplace explosives on jet

PARIS (AP) — Police at Paris' top airport lost track of a passenger's bag in which plastic explosives were placed to train bomb-sniffing dogs, police said Saturday. Warned that the bag may have gotten on any of nearly 90 flights from Charles de Gaulle, authorities searched planes upon arrival in Los Angeles and New York.
French police said the explosives were harmless and there was no chance of their going off, since no detonators were connected to them.

More than 300 passengers were evacuated and their luggage searched when their Air France flight from Charles de Gaulle arrived in Los Angeles late Friday the U.S. Transportation Security Administration said

Two Air France and one American Airlines flight to Paris were also searched in New York City, TSA spokesman Norm Brewer said. No explosives were found on any of the flights.

French police at Charles de Gaulle deliberately placed up to five ounces of plastic explosives into a passenger's luggage Friday evening, police spokesman Pierre Bouquin said.

But a "momentary lack of surveillance" led to the bag being lost on a conveyor belt carrying luggage from check-in to planes, he said.

Authorities immediately alerted the relevant airlines that one of between 80 and 90 planes that left the French capital from 5:30 p.m. to 7 p.m. Friday could be carrying the explosives, Bouquin said.

Four of the flights were en route to the United States, while others were headed to places like Japan and Brazil, Bouquin said. Some were domestic French flights. The flight searched in Los Angeles was delayed two to three hours before continuing on its next leg to Tahiti in the South Pacific.

"These dogs must be trained in the most realistic situation possible ... to be the most effective," Bouquin said.

"Indeed, it's possible that someone will have a surprise when he opens his bag."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...plosives_x.htm

smilingassassin · 12-05-2004, 04:21 AM

What are the chances its been sent to Iraq by the French? "Vive le Iraq livre!!!"

ChrisF202 · 12-05-2004, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by smilingassassin

What are the chances its been sent to Iraq by the French? "Vive le Iraq livre!!!"

Never forget how Saddam had all those French amored vehicles and choppers as well as the WMD given to him by the French.

Confed999 · 12-05-2004, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Leader

"Indeed, it's possible that someone will have a surprise when he opens his bag."

I would be so excited! Allways wanted a bag of plastic explosives!

Leader · 12-05-2004, 17:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Confed999

I would be so excited! Allways wanted a bag of plastic explosives!

Marry Christmas.

lemontree · 12-06-2004, 00:38 AM

Now that is REALY bumb.

Veni Vidi Vici · 12-06-2004, 10:58 AM

This is france, this is the country that has its "gendarms'' chain their guns to their belts.

lemontree · 12-07-2004, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici

This is france, this is the country that has its "gendarms'' chain their guns to their belts.

Hey,hey...wait a bit... that is done so that insurgents don't snatch it and flee. Thats want professional armies do in insurgency hit areas. Even we do it.

ChrisF202 · 12-08-2004, 16:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici

This is france, this is the country that has its "gendarms'' chain their guns to their belts.

Dont they still carry .357 Magnums? A bit outdated if you ask me. Yet, they claim it is very accurate and powerful ... ive been told that anything is better then the Glock and the M9, which is probably true. US cops never should have stopped carrying the .38 and instead placed more emphasis on marksmanship rather then using the whole clip in a shootout.

After all, 6 well aimed shots is better then 15 poorly aimed shots.

Veni Vidi Vici · 12-08-2004, 22:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisF202

Dont they still carry .357 Magnums? A bit outdated if you ask me. Yet, they claim it is very accurate and powerful ... ive been told that anything is better then the Glock and the M9, which is probably true. US cops never should have stopped carrying the .38 and instead placed more emphasis on marksmanship rather then using the whole clip in a shootout.

After all, 6 well aimed shots is better then 15 poorly aimed shots.

My personal preferance as far as hand guns go (although my dept doesn't issue them) is a P90DC .45 Ruger. I carry it off duty and too the range. I wouldn't say that anything is better then a glock. I mean personaly its not my fav but it still is a good gun. I don't like .38s as much.

dalem · 12-09-2004, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici

My personal preferance as far as hand guns go (although my dept doesn't issue them) is a P90DC .45 Ruger. I carry it off duty and too the range. I wouldn't say that anything is better then a glock. I mean personaly its not my fav but it still is a good gun. I don't like .38s as much.

I have Ruger revolvers but not an auto. I like my Steyr M9 - handles like a dream. (No duty, just target for me.) I do carry a snubby .38 but that's all I figure I'll ever need CCW-wise.

-dale

Veni Vidi Vici · 12-09-2004, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dalem

I do carry a snubby .38

Ya.. I own one but don't carry it.

Anon · 12-09-2004, 10:32 AM

"Dont they still carry .357 Magnums? A bit outdated if you ask me."

The .357 Magnum is the king of all manstoppers. Just look at the statistics.

Anon · 12-09-2004, 10:34 AM

"My personal preferance as far as hand guns go (although my dept doesn't issue them) is a P90DC .45 Ruger. I carry it off duty and too the range."

My cousin had a P-95 Ruger 9mm. He really liked that weapon.
.45's are niiiice. Wise selection ma cheri.

"I wouldn't say that anything is better then a glock. I mean personaly its not my fav but it still is a good gun. I don't like .38s as much."

I like 9mm's(in fact that's what i carry for work), but i'm not a glock fan. Hair-triggers on guns without safties are not the best idea.

Anon · 12-09-2004, 10:39 AM

This is my carry gun. Custom S&W M6906upper w/ M5903 frame assy. Mag-na-ported, trijicon night sights, S&W performance shop match grade barrel, 4.5lb SA trigger, mechanism converted to cocked and locked single action, extended ambidextrious saftey, with Hogue Grips. It holds 15+1rds. I use Cor-Bon 115gr +P+ JHP ammunition.
Extremely accurate weapon.

12-05-2004, 00:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
Leader Ubi dubium ibi libertas *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 09-04-03 Location: Boston, MA, USPRA Posts: 5,124	“French Security” French police misplace explosives on jet PARIS (AP) — Police at Paris' top airport lost track of a passenger's bag in which plastic explosives were placed to train bomb-sniffing dogs, police said Saturday. Warned that the bag may have gotten on any of nearly 90 flights from Charles de Gaulle, authorities searched planes upon arrival in Los Angeles and New York. French police said the explosives were harmless and there was no chance of their going off, since no detonators were connected to them. More than 300 passengers were evacuated and their luggage searched when their Air France flight from Charles de Gaulle arrived in Los Angeles late Friday the U.S. Transportation Security Administration said Two Air France and one American Airlines flight to Paris were also searched in New York City, TSA spokesman Norm Brewer said. No explosives were found on any of the flights. French police at Charles de Gaulle deliberately placed up to five ounces of plastic explosives into a passenger's luggage Friday evening, police spokesman Pierre Bouquin said. But a "momentary lack of surveillance" led to the bag being lost on a conveyor belt carrying luggage from check-in to planes, he said. Authorities immediately alerted the relevant airlines that one of between 80 and 90 planes that left the French capital from 5:30 p.m. to 7 p.m. Friday could be carrying the explosives, Bouquin said. Four of the flights were en route to the United States, while others were headed to places like Japan and Brazil, Bouquin said. Some were domestic French flights. The flight searched in Los Angeles was delayed two to three hours before continuing on its next leg to Tahiti in the South Pacific. "These dogs must be trained in the most realistic situation possible ... to be the most effective," Bouquin said. "Indeed, it's possible that someone will have a surprise when he opens his bag." http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...plosives_x.htm __________________ "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have." "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" NEVER FORGET

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lemontree Bandaid *Military Professional* Join Date: 10-04-04 Location: India Posts: 5,918	Now that is REALY bumb. __________________ Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	"Dont they still carry .357 Magnums? A bit outdated if you ask me." The .357 Magnum is the king of all manstoppers. Just look at the statistics.

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Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	"My personal preferance as far as hand guns go (although my dept doesn't issue them) is a P90DC .45 Ruger. I carry it off duty and too the range." My cousin had a P-95 Ruger 9mm. He really liked that weapon. .45's are niiiice. Wise selection ma cheri. "I wouldn't say that anything is better then a glock. I mean personaly its not my fav but it still is a good gun. I don't like .38s as much." I like 9mm's(in fact that's what i carry for work), but i'm not a glock fan. Hair-triggers on guns without safties are not the best idea.

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