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    Humans and their stupid myths

    China criticised for 'tiger wine'

    China has come under fire for allowing tigers to be bred for the production of so-called "tiger bone wine".

    The drink is reportedly made by steeping tiger carcasses in rice wine. Those who drink the wine believe it makes them strong.

    Chinese delegates at the International Tiger Symposium in Nepal are arguing for the lifting of a current ban on the trade in tiger bones and skins.

    But other Asian nations with threatened tiger populations want the ban to stay.

    Emotive issue

    There has been a forceful exchange of views on the issue at the symposium, according to the BBC correspondent in Kathmandu, Charles Haviland.

    Experts say there are several reasons why tiger numbers have drastically declined, but just one has grabbed the limelight, our correspondent says.

    The argument centres on the existence of so-called "tiger farms" in China, which have bred thousands of captive tigers with the ostensible purpose of entertaining visitors.

    But the conservation group WWF, which is chairing the symposium, says these farms are fronts for the production of tiger bone wine.

    WWF also says the captive tigers cannot survive in the wild, and believes the production of wine and underhand trade in skin and bones also threaten to make wild tiger poaching more lucrative.

    A senior WWF official said the discussions were heated, with Chinese academics saying their country should lift its ban on the trade in tiger parts.

    But experts from states like Nepal and Bangladesh, which have threatened tiger populations, are urging that the ban should remain.

    On Wednesday, a more formal forum of government delegations will begin discussing the fate of the majestic beast, which a recent television poll declared to be the world's most popular animal.

    BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | China criticised for 'tiger wine'

    Already the tigers killed in India end up in China through black market and now this startling discovery about Tiger wine.
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    Ban or no ban, China is going to do whatever the hell China wants unless they find themselves facing a country that has a strong military.

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    And, sad as the tiger part is, I don't think anybody is going to start a war over something like that.
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    On Wednesday, a more formal forum of government delegations will begin discussing the fate of the majestic beast, which a recent television poll declared to be the world's most popular animal.
    Well, I think you didn't need a poll to tell you that the animal was really popular. They do have a certain beauty to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    Ban or no ban, China is going to do whatever the hell China wants unless they find themselves facing a country that has a strong military.
    Well said.
    Maybe people who think that China can/should be following international trade laws should read that a few times and let it sink in.

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    The PRCs preference for tiger parts, including its reproductive organ, is wreaking havoc with India's tiger reserves. The population has dipped to abysmal lows, and one of Indias most famous conservationists- Valmik Thapar is now on record stating that the tiger is going to be only found in zoos. He has even requested the GOI to provide the army for policing the tiger reserves. The PRCs organized poaching triads have even equipped the poachers with kalashnikovs and modern comm sets. The Indian forest service is woefully ill equipped to face them. The PRC Govt cares two hoots about the issue and the GOI will act too late. :(
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    Beijing 2008 is a wonderful opportunity to embarass the hell outta China. There are some courageous people in Animal Rights groups, but can they dare to take on China in their own territory during Olympics?

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    Why do you blame the Chinese if the Indian government is impotent enough to prevent the slaughter of our national animal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Fu Manchu View Post
    Beijing 2008 is a wonderful opportunity to embarass the hell outta China. There are some courageous people in Animal Rights groups, but can they dare to take on China in their own territory during Olympics?
    You can't try to boycott or protest the olympics. China has put too much effort and it is suppose to help the economy and promote international goodwill as well as a time of fun. This shouldn't be a time for people to try to gain publicity for their own gains.
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    I dont think the animal activists have balls to do that. If it comes to their own life versus animals, they are just like any other average joe. They know what China will do if they threaten to disturb the Olympics.
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    Anti Poaching Laws have to be made stricter in India.

    Poachers should be in jails for more than 20 years as also those who assist like the forest wardens.

    However, politically it would not make sense in India, since the working hands for poaching are mostly the tribal or the deprived classes!

    So, we are back to square one.

    Sorry Tiger, the votes are more important than you and so are those whose hearts bleed from behind their air conditioned homes/office doors, for the deprived and backward.

    Why blame the Chinese if they feel that their potency would skyrocket with tiger genitals or whatever?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay View Post
    I dont think the animal activists have balls to do that. If it comes to their own life versus animals, they are just like any other average joe. They know what China will do if they threaten to disturb the Olympics.
    Except for high-profile rich people who are animal activists and know China can't touch them because of the publicity it will create, your totally right. What you said settle some of my fears of any such protest during olympics.
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