gays.. good or bad?

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Franco Lolan

homosexuality is moral depravity and biological untenable: we cannot succeed if we are all gay

If they dont look at your crotch, you dont need to look at their crotch

[mostlymad]

Originally Posted by Franco Lolan

homosexuality is moral depravity and biological untenable: we cannot succeed if we are all gay

biological untenable...so are many hereditary diseases such as MD, MS, etc. So what? There are more than enough people to propogate our species.

As for moral depravity, that is a matter of opinion, not a fact.

Originally Posted by Confed

I wouldn't have a problem with a private "all gay" school though.

My problem with an "all anything" school is the segregation. If my community wanted to open a school that did not allow gays, that would be discrimination. In Mississippi, my friend's community wanted to open an African American school, no one else allowed. He, black himself, was outraged and saddened that the pendulum was swinging the other way because he was seeing growing prejudice toward non-blacks in his community, and this feeds it. Also, non-blacks will have to view blacks as different, because they are telling us they are different.

I can see it justified somewhat with cultural issues but not with sexual choices. One the one hand, we are told to accept gays as normal, just like heteros, sexuality is a choice, but then, at the same time, hey look, guys! We are so different we need our own school! I haven't thought a lot about it, but it is my first feeling on this segregating thing.

[logic]

People; straight, gay, bi, or whatever should keep bedroom matters in the bedroom. Sexual preference is neither good nor bad, it just is. People who try to recruit others to their lifestyle bother me, especially when the mass media gives them free publicity. They should have to pay for publicity, just like politicians.

[mostlymad]

good statement, logic.

[Confed999]

Originally Posted by mostlymad

My problem with an "all anything" school is the segregation

Should free people not be alowed to be with who they wish? I don't have a problem with the white sepratists, as long as they do it willingly, and on their own dime. They should be free to do or believe anything, as long as it does not impose upon the freedoms of others.

[AreYouCereal]

i think there is absolutely no problem with one sex going out, even marrying the same sex. i treat them the same way i treat everyone else. they cause no harm so why worry? and for those of you who say its biologically wrong because there would be no reprodution: WE ARE NOT ALL GAY! and also the issue about the bible says its wrong, well, thats only a beleif, and opinion. im catholic and my religion says its wrong, i guess thats just a difference between my religion and I, because I most certainly dont agree with that part of the bible. and i know theres another issue of gay marriage, its stupid that gay marriage would even become an issue. 2 people getting married, declaring their love for eacother, letting everyone know how they feel for eachother by the act of marriage, anyone find anything wrong about that? because i sure dont.

[Ziska]

I don't have my bible out here at uni, but Paul condemmns the practice several times in his epistles.

What some people forget is that homosexuality was more prevalent in the time of paul than it is now (in western society). Members of the church at Corinth were gay, and paul told them the right of it in no uncertain terms.

I'll get you the bible verses early next week confed.

Anyway, if gay people did just keep it to themselves, noone would know about it. But they insist on having disgusting 'gay pride' marches (like the Sydney Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras) and so on.

And you can't just pick and choose with the Bible. Either you believe it all, or you just admit that you belifs rise from yourself.

[Trooth]

Gays are neither good nor bad. They are people who are gay. Humans aren't alone in having a gay population.

Gays, however, are historicaly an oppressed group. Although as Ziska points out they were less of a hidden minority in the past - recall the famous Bedoiun quote "For a child you have a woman, for pleasure a boy, for ectasy a melon".

Oppressed groups tend to band together and then, through strength in numbers, they often over compensate. Gay marches and parades are one aspect, Gay people outting each other is another.

When it comes ot the actual gay acts. Each and every person on this board is different and has different predelictions. If everyone on this board was heterosexual (and they may well be) and we all posted what we "got off on" i am sure we would manage to disgust or offend each other. But it really isn't any business of mine what you get up to as long as you are not forcing your desires on others. I see no difference with Gay sex.

I can't see how an all gay school can work anyway, unless you mean a university. Children haven't had the experience to understand whether they are gay or not.

[Prodigal Son]

I don't have my bible out here at uni, but Paul condemmns the practice several times in his epistles.

The Bible is very contradictory when it comes to condemning things. Slavery, for instance, was once considered a good thing in the Bible. Harlots are to be stoned to death. It might be a good book to base a primitive society on, but a modern 21st century society? Ah....no thanks.

What some people forget is that homosexuality was more prevalent in the time of paul than it is now (in western society). Members of the church at Corinth were gay, and paul told them the right of it in no uncertain terms.


Anyway, if gay people did just keep it to themselves, noone would know about it. But they insist on having disgusting 'gay pride' marches (like the Sydney Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras) and so on.

Public space is open to everyone.

And you can't just pick and choose with the Bible. Either you believe it all, or you just admit that you belifs rise from yourself.

Look in the encyclopedia under "Afghanistan, Taliban Rule" for a descripition of a society that based it laws on a religious book.

[Confed999]

Originally Posted by Ziska

I'll get you the bible verses early next week confed.

Cool buddy, I'd like to check it out.

[Ray]

As I look at it any good and serious Christian would keep his BIble always with him wherever he goes!

[Trooth]

http://bible.com/bible_read.html

Lots of versions ... which is of course puzzling in itself.

[Gio]

Originally Posted by Ray

As I look at it any good and serious Christian would keep his BIble always with him wherever he goes!

I don't know any good and serious Christians then.

[Asim Aquil]

Homosexuality does not need approvals or disapprovals, like good and bad. It needs acceptance. It's a sexual preferance, they don't care about your (all other people) religion or anything else.

[Gio]

Off subject but:
" "If I go crazy, then will you still call me Superman?"
-- Kryptonite by Three doors down"

I haven't heard this song in ages. Reminded me of good times, lol.