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    Memory (Losing) Drug

    Memory Drug

    If there were a pill you could take after experiencing a painful or traumatic event that would permanently weaken your memory of what had just happened, would you take it?

    An ongoing study suggests it's a choice that may not be so far off. The drug is called propranolol and it's already used to treat high blood pressure. As Lesley Stahl reports, the prospect of using propranolol to modify memory has some trauma victims filled with hope, and some critics alarmed by the potential for misuse.
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    It was wisely observed many years ago when somebody said that a solution is all too often a new probem in disguise.
    As to the possibility of mis-use, the mind boggles....

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    Correct me if I am wrong but don't people spend years and pay big money for psychoanalysis to REMEMBER past tramatic events? Secondly, how can you learn from past mistakes if you can not remember them. Third, I want to know how many people who voted for Bush the second time are taking this drug. I agree with glyn. There is way too much potential for abuse on both an individual and a global scale.

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    Why would this mind altering substance be legal when things like marijuana and shrooms aren't?

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    i wonder does it kill sort term memory or collective memory? that would be sucks if one takes a pill and looses all what he learned in college, on the other hand if it kills short term memory one whouldn't remember that he took that pill.
    what are the gonna come up with next? this is wonderfull time we live at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooglin View Post
    Why would this mind altering substance be legal when things like marijuana and shrooms aren't?
    i agree pot is way less harmfull, not sure about shrooms though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omon View Post
    i wonder does it kill sort term memory or collective memory? that would be sucks if one takes a pill and looses all what he learned in college, on the other hand if it kills short term memory one whouldn't remember that he took that pill.
    what are the gonna come up with next? this is wonderfull time we live at.
    Apparently, from watching the linked videos I learned that, the person is suppose to be thinking of the event when they are taking the pill. The memory itself is not erased, just any negativity related to the memory.

    Example, one woman in the study had been raped repeatedly in one visit, when she was 12, by her Dr. This had affected her to the point where she could not even undress in front of her husband. After this study, she still recalls the incident, but the anxiety associated with it, is gone.

    I think that the potential for misuse is huge - but people misuse alcohol and we dont take that off the market, do we?

    Look at this as being able to give this to vets that are suffering from post traumatic stress disorder. They would have their memories, but would be able to function relatively normal.

    I think it is worth a closer look by science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooglin View Post
    Why would this mind altering substance be legal when things like marijuana and shrooms aren't?
    Wooglin, I think this is the first time that you and I see eye to eye
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    Quote Originally Posted by THL
    Apparently, from watching the linked videos I learned that, the person is suppose to be thinking of the event when they are taking the pill. The memory itself is not erased, just any negativity related to the memory.
    Weed will do the same thing. In fact, it will even make the incident pretty dam funny to boot. What's more, it's probably cheaper and has no ill side effects...except for orange fingers from the cheetos of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooglin View Post
    Weed will do the same thing. In fact, it will even make the incident pretty dam funny to boot. What's more, it's probably cheaper and has no ill side effects...except for orange fingers from the cheetos of course.
    So will a recreational dose of xanax.
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    I think I must've inadvertently taken it right before my calculus exams sometime back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THL View Post
    Apparently, from watching the linked videos I learned that, the person is suppose to be thinking of the event when they are taking the pill. The memory itself is not erased, just any negativity related to the memory.

    Example, one woman in the study had been raped repeatedly in one visit, when she was 12, by her Dr. This had affected her to the point where she could not even undress in front of her husband. After this study, she still recalls the incident, but the anxiety associated with it, is gone.

    I think that the potential for misuse is huge - but people misuse alcohol and we dont take that off the market, do we?

    Look at this as being able to give this to vets that are suffering from post traumatic stress disorder. They would have their memories, but would be able to function relatively normal.

    I think it is worth a closer look by science.
    That just makes it sound like a permanent Prozac, than making the memory go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmchairGeneral View Post
    Has anyone here seen Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind?
    Yeah, I have , and I must say this drug seems to work like the therapy they had in the movie!
    The greatest instrument of moral good is the imagination.

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