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And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with It and do not break your oath; (Q. 38:44)
Taliban's Moral Police are beating an
Afghan Woman in Kabul for not covering
herself properly & showing her hand in
public! Another woman is trying to cover &
protect the victim.
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"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
Palestinians celebrate in the streets after hearing about the destruction on 11 September.
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"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
Muhammad is Allah’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another… Through them Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. (Q. 48:29)
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"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
Quran: the textbook for terrorism
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"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
A mother rejoices after inflicting wounds on the head of her toddler
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"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
Public execution by Taliban
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"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
Don't be so daft. You make assumptions about groups of people every day, you've just done one in the quote above. You make assumptions about everyone you see, based on race, sex, clothing, actions etc etc, and you are perfectly right to make such assumptions because they are based on your experience.Originally Posted by TopHatsLiberal
Each individual you come to know personally modifies your assumptions, but as Confed pointed out, you can't personally meet and judge 6,000,000,000 people. You can only judge them on what you've learnt of their ideology.
"My Prayer and my sacrifice and my life and my death belong to Allah, the Lord of the worlds."
- Muhammed Atta
"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
You returned to WAB.
You wouldn't have retruned if this friend of your had not brought you in howling and kicking and touching your feet?
Or so it appears you want us to imagine if one goes by your usual ambiguous, double dealing style!
Great!
As momentus as the Second Coming of Christ, I presume!
A saviour returns!
Utter poppycoc_K-- Shakespeare, Hamlet.O, it
offends me to the soul to hear a robustious
periwig-pated fellow tear a passion to tatters, to
very rags, to split the ears of the groundlings, who
for the most part are capable of nothing but
inexplicable dumbshows and noise: I would have such
a fellow whipped for o'erdoing Termagant; it
out-herods Herod: pray you, avoid it.
Bluesman, I can reciprocate with pictures of some Muslim suffering inflicted by the west.
Both sides are making regular Muslims suffer. And its bad to be pissed off about it? If you think such pictures depict anything about what regular Muslims are like and conduct their everyday life, then there's grim hope.
Right but her judgment's declaring everyone innocent before being proven as guilty.
Your's is the very opposite.
A few Muslims you distrust, or all of them. You're hardly showing the distinction.
Well, Asim, I started off just depicting the celebrations that your twisted co-religionists engaged in during 9/11, as a reference point to 'why we don't trust you, and hate your grotty little vicious and backwards religion', but I got kind of carried away with the picture-posting, and diluted my own message.
But I guess I'll go ahead and state that unless and until you all let go of the nasty and benighted hatefulness of your disgusting belief system, I cannot consider you anything but a savage.
Answer TWO questions truthfully:
Am I inferior to you in the eyes of your god?
Are females as valuable to your god as you are?
Then, square those answers with what your silly little book teaches you.
I will NEVER accept that you have a right to this belief system that casts as YOUR SACRED DUTY to act a certain way toward a) me, and b) over half the world's population. Islam is an aggressive, fighting faith, and it puts a positive duty upon all of its adherants to DO things to me and anybody else that does not believe its disgusting tenets, as well as the poor folks that had the bad luck to be born female, even if they DO believe this crap.
Islam is a progress retardant, and only in places that it has been placed second or lower to individual rights has it been anything but a curse.
The world would be infinitely better off if Isalm did not exist, and never had.
"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
They depict what "regular" Muslims allow to happen in their names. The west wouldn't be "making" anyone suffer, had "regular" Muslims taken care of things already.
No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
But Bluesman, even knowing that women are all but hated, I still cannot make myself dislike an entire group of people. If I were able to assume in my mind that they were all bad and all wanted to harm me (or you or your neighbor etc etc) then I would also have to force myself to believe that all catholic priests are child molestors since hardly a day goes by that another one has not abused a child. I cannot do that either.
I am willing to accept that maybe MOST of this faith is bad. Maybe MOST wants to wipe out the US. Maybe MOST are these horrible monsters that live among us. But I cannot believe that they ALL are. What if I did believe this and one day ran into one that was not like this, but I refused to give him the benefit of the doubt? I may miss out on knowing a great person. I could miss out on knowing someone who could be one of the best friends I would ever have. All because of a personal bias. I cannot bring myself to dislike people just for the sake of disiking them.
I am by no means defending them or what is done "in their name", but just last week we had a man here who killed his own daughter. He stabbed her in the neck and then tried to drown her in the toilet. (Link, just in case anyone feels the need to read it) He did this because he thought she was the devil. Here is the Texas women who killed her baby by cutting off his arms. When the police arrived she was listening to hymns.
Even with this "evidence" I refuse to believe that all Christians are nuts or even child killers.
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"To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are."-Sholem Asch
"I always turn to the sports page first, which records people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures."-Earl Warren
"I didn't intend for this to take on a political tone. I'm just here for the drugs."-Nancy Reagan, when asked a political question at a "Just Say No" rally
"He no play-a da game, he no make-a da rules."-Earl Butz, on the Pope's attitude toward birth control
Indeed, both are generalisations based on personal experience and faith. Whether pessimism, optimism, realism, they are just ism's but nevertheless equally valid.
LOL, next you'll be quoting G W Bush to me. "you're either for us, or for the terrorists", I guess in keeping with your own generalisations in the boycott inspired by the Dutch newspaper cartoons.
Generalisations can be broken down using study and knowledge. Hence I can assume that Islamic ideology in South East Asia is not the Islam of the middle east: perhaps the first and certainly the second Bali bombings were directed more at Hinduism than the Christian or secular west.
The Islamic ideology of the southern Phillipines closely adheres to the most radical, the Islamic ideology of Thailand is as much about ethnic conflict as anything.
From simple study of such things as the Pew Report I cited elsewhere, it becomes relatively easy to make assumptions based on country of origin, ethnicity and general regional politics and propaganda.
They are indeed generalisations and can be dismissed by examination of any individual, but still hold truth for a population, surely you as a journalist can see this?
The one binding factor in all these regions and attitudes is of course, Islamic ideology.......
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