Microchipping Humans

[THL]

I had my kitten microchipped (as I have all my pets in the last 7 years) a few weekends ago and I was explaining to my aunt how it worked. She had mentioned that it is a shame we cannot use the same technology for our children, but with a Lo Jack twist added. I had told her that I would be one of the first people in line if I could have a microchip the size of a grain of rice imbedded into my daughter as they chip animals with AVID if it meant that they would be able to find her almost immediately should she ever be abducted.

So, what do you all say? Should we be able to microchip our kids in this way? Saying, for instance, that it could be "turned off" or deactivated when they reach 18 and become adults for those that fear that the government would then pick up where AVID left off. I think AVID only lasts for roughly 20 years before it stops working anyway since it was made for pets and farm animals and most do not live longer than that.

2 Workers Have Chips Embedded Into Them

Tiny silicon chips were embedded into two workers who volunteered to help test the tagging technology at a surveillance equipment company, an official said Monday.

The Mexico attorney general's office implanted the so-called RFIDs — for radio frequency identification chips — in some employees in 2004 to restrict access to secure areas. Implanting them in the workers at CityWatcher.com is believed to be the first use of the technology in living humans in the United States.

Sean Darks, chief executive of the company, also had one of the chips embedded.

"I have one," he said. "I'm not going to ask somebody to do something I wouldn't do myself. None of my employees are forced to get the chip to keep their job."

The chips are the size of a grain of rice and a doctor embedded them in the forearm just under the surface of the skin, Darks said.

They work "like an access card. There's a reader outside the door; you walk up to the reader, put your arm under it, and it opens the door," Darks said.

Darks said the implants don't enable CityWatcher.com to track employees' movements.

"It's a passive chip. It emits no signal whatsoever," Darks said. "It's the same thing as a keycard."

CityWatcher.com has contracts with six cities to provide cameras and Internet monitoring of high-crime areas, Darks said. The company is experimenting with the chips to identify workers with access to vaults where data and images are kept for police departments, he said.

The technology predates World War II, but has appeared in numerous modern adaptations, such as tracking pets, vehicles and commercial goods at warehouses.

After Hurricane Katrina, as body counts mounted and missing-person reports multiplied, some morgue workers in Mississippi used the tiny computer chips to keep track of unidentified remains.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060213/...ltBHNlYwM3MTY-

[Officer of Engineers]

We're not animals.

[Karna]

I could have sworn we are.

[THL]

We're not animals.

Exactly my point, Sir.

If we are willing to pay a small fee to help with the safe return of our pets, what makes our children less worthy of this? Why would we not try to lessen the time it takes to find a missing child. Elizabeth Smart could have been found intentionally within hours and not by accident in nearly a year.

[Officer of Engineers]

Those who trade liberty for security will have neither - BF

[THL]

Those who trade liberty for security will have neither - BF

Sir. Let's say for a moment that this was an option for kids. If someone were to come in your home and take your daughter one night while you slept, how would you feel knowing that there was a device out there that you could have utilized to get her back and now all you can do is wait for the cops to see if they can find her on their own?

I don't want to leave the responsibility of my daughters safety in others hands. I would prefer to know that I had taken as many safety measures as possible to be sure she would come home.

[Officer of Engineers]

Sir. Let's say for a moment that this was an option for kids. If someone were to come in your home and take your daughter one night while you slept, how would you feel knowing that there was a device out there that you could have utilized to get her back and now all you can do is wait for the cops to see if they can find her on their own?

Then, I've failed in my duty as a parent, haven't I? To prevent an intrusion into my own home. Your point that when all else fails, this should be an option. My point is and always will be, make sure you don't get to this point.

I don't want to leave the responsibility of my daughters safety in others hands.

You are leaving the responsibility of your daughter's safety in the hands of others. Namely the manufacturer and the security company that monitors that device.

I would prefer to know that I had taken as many safety measures as possible to be sure she would come home.

Why don't you make sure that she doesn't leave home in the 1st place? Even by abduction? Do you really want your daughter to feel that she is being watched 24/7 until she's 18? I don't.

[dalem]

I can see its utility for marking children as long as it had a much shorter lifespan - say you need a new one every year.

-dale

[Parihaka]

Intellectually I agree with OoE. I do know however if there were some small device, not implanted but like a wee brooch or pendant or something, I'd get it in an instant.

[Horrido]

Why don't you make sure that she doesn't leave home in the 1st place? Even by abduction? Do you really want your daughter to feel that she is being watched 24/7 until she's 18? I don't.

If I had a daughter? Anything to let her (and her prospectives boyfriends) know that I know where she is at all times (or anything else to make her life a teenage living hell) is ideal by me.

[Officer of Engineers]

If I had a daughter? Anything to let her (and her prospectives boyfriends) know that I know where she is at all times (or anything else to make her life a teenage living hell) is ideal by me.

There are days I'm dreaming she will elope.

[Parihaka]

What, and miss out on the chance of spending your life savings for her wedding to some hippy scum who will promptly come and live with you because he's 'currently between jobs' and spends each evening lecturing you on the benefits of a world without armies and why don't we give peace a chance? Yeah Sure

[THL]

What, and miss out on the chance of spending your life savings for her wedding to some hippy scum who will promptly come and live with you because he's 'currently between jobs' and spends each evening lecturing you on the benefits of a world without armies and why don't we give peace a chance? Yeah Sure

What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall in your home, Col, should that day ever come.

[TopHatter]

There are days I'm dreaming she will elope.

Can't help you there Sir, but I'm still available to babysit

[THL]

Can't help you there Sir, but I'm still available to babysit

ROFL.

Thanks, TH. I needed that.