Lunatock

How will this latest siege of the city of lights turn out??????????????


http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/eu...eut/index.html

France defends policies after riot

Monday, October 31, 2005 Posted: 1942 GMT (0342 HKT)


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Manage Alerts | What Is This? BOBIGNY, France (Reuters) -- French Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy defended his tough crime policies on Monday after a fourth night of riots in a Paris suburb in which tear gas was fired into a mosque.

Sarkozy, addressing police officers, vowed to find how tear gas had been fired into the Muslim place of worship, an incident which had helped fuel the disturbances.

Youths hurled rocks and set fire to cars in the northeastern Clichy-sous-Bois suburb of the French capital, where many immigrants and poor families live in high-rise housing estates notorious for youth violence.

"I want these people to be able to live in peace," Sarkozy told reporters as he mingled with local residents outside the Seine-Saint-Denis prefecture in Bobigny, which oversees Clichy-sous-Bois.

French television said six police officers were hurt and 11 people arrested in violence partly fueled by the incident at the mosque. Sarkozy promised an inquiry.

"I am, of course, available to the imam of the Clichy mosque to let him have all the details in order to understand how and why a tear gas bomb was sent into this mosque," he told about 170 police officers at the prefecture.

Sarkozy made his name by cutting crime figures during his first stint as interior minister from 2002 to 2004, and is trying to retain his popularity with voters ahead of an expected bid for the presidency in 2007.

He deflected criticism of his crime policies from the opposition Socialists, saying trouble had been brewing in Paris suburbs for years.

"For 30 years the situation has been getting worse in a number of neighborhoods," he said.

"I am perfectly aware that it is not in three days or in three months that we will make up for 30 years," he added, vowing to crack down on gangs and drug dealers in the suburbs.

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The violence began four days ago after the deaths of two teenagers, believed to be of African origin, who were electrocuted after clambering into a power sub-station while apparently fleeing police.

Sixteen people were injured in violence on Friday and hundreds of residents marched on Saturday to appeal for calm and as a mark of respect for the dead teenagers.

Sarkozy offered to meet the youths' parents but it was unclear if the meeting would take place, aides said.

The Clichy riots were the latest in a series of incidents in the northeastern suburbs that have attracted the attention of Sarkozy and become the target of his vow to get tough on crime.

In June, an 11-year-old boy was killed by a stray bullet in the northern area of La Courneuve. The eastern suburb of Vitry-sur-Seine made headlines in 2002 when a 17-year-old girl was set alight by an 18-year-old boy.

Sarkozy, who returned as the interior minister in late May, began a new crime offensive this month, ordering specially trained police to tackle 25 problem neighborhoods in cities throughout France.

Opposition politicians say he has made things worse.

Laurent Fabius, a former Socialist prime minister and also a potential presidential candidate in 2007, mocked Sarkozy's frequent visits to areas such as Clichy.

"When he announces that he's going to visit such and such a commune or suburb every week, that's not how we resolve those problems," Fabius told Europe 1 radio.

"We need to act at the same time on prevention, repression, education, housing, jobs ... and not play the cowboy."

indianguy4u

Well they played a UEFA Champions League match yesterday in paris[stade france] w/o any trouble. Man yoo lost yesterday . Grand father fergusson is in big trouble .

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Hala Madrid!!

Leader

It's like the French are trying to be wrong on all fronts. Domestically they past stupid laws that discriminate against Muslims and then they go and appease terrorists and Arab fascists internationally.

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dalem

I told y'all this was coming.

And like I said then - no one does jackboots in the streets like the Euros.

I'm hoping Sarkozy is given enough of a hammer to smash this once and for all so it doesn't have a chance to ebb and flow and spread.

Then again, given enough time they can set all the Euro unemployed to erecting the detention camps...

Note to self - "Buy United Chicken Wire, Inc."

-dale

lemontree

Leader,
Sorry I you lost you here.
What discrimination policies were passed against muslims?...
Who are the terrorists that the French are appeasing?...

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Cheers!...on the rocks!!

giggs88

I think Leader is talking about the decision by the French to ban ALL relgious symbols in schools (example - crosses, kippahs, hijabs..etc). I disagree with Leader because that policy wasn't targetting only muslims.


Their decision to not support the war in Iraq.

SloMax

In the beginning Iraq was about WMD and not terrorism, I don't see this as appeasement on terrorism. Sadam did a very good job of keeping Islamic terrorist outside Iraq (except support for Palestinian liberation groups).

giggs88

It could be something else that Leader is talking about. I'll let him speak for himself.

ZFBoxcar

L'Intifadé

Ray

SloMax

IMO the reasons for these riots is the lack of jobs not religious discrimination. In many suburbs there are a lot of African immigrants of Christian faith as well as ethnic French.

On the issue of religious symbols in schools I totally agree that religion and school must be strictly separated, so for me the ban of religious symbols in schools is correct.

Leader

Outlawing berkas in schools.

Iraqi terrorist through their rhetoric.

Leader

First, the whole idea is wrong. Barring people from wearing certain items of clothing is a violation of individual rights. Second, it is targeted at Muslims. No one in France gives a **** about people wearing crosses in schools. There is deep racism in France and much of Western Europe. They like to put themselves over the “racist Americans,” but until recently they haven't had to deal with any racial issues because they had relatively homogeneous populations.

Leader

How about now?

Bulgaroctonus

Muslims are the historical enemy of all things European. Europe has done very well without Muslims to this point, and should continue to do so. European Muslims have little interest in the success of their adoptive state. Instead, they are disloyal and untrustworthy.

Europe should expel its Muslim populations, simple as that. I'll stand by this statement. And yes, I am an Islamophobe.

Damn political correctness to hell!