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Old 02-12-2008, 16:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
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However if your wearing a explosive laden vest you may want to take the detour around this equipment.
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Old 02-12-2008, 16:58 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Badgers aren't in Russian service anymore, IIRC.

Try "Bears", which was what I read.
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Old 02-12-2008, 17:12 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Badgers aren't in Russian service anymore, IIRC.

Try "Bears", which was what I read.
You are correct. The last episode in 2007 was Bears as well. Thanks
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I am surprised the US allowed it to fly-over the carrier. You would think the CAP would have done something to stop the bomber before it was able to so closely invade carrier airspace.
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I am surprised the US allowed it to fly-over the carrier. You would think the CAP would have done something to stop the bomber before it was able to so closely invade carrier airspace.
No big deal just cat and mouse at sea. Been happening for a very long time in International waters the only problem becomes if an accident happens. We have steamed very close to Russian carriers and they have us close enough to make out people faces. All part of naval tradition. Im sure in the pre war years these things happened quite simuliar with the Brits and Germany and other nations. Just feeling one another out is all.
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No big deal just cat and mouse at sea. Been happening for a very long time in International waters the only problem becomes if an accident happens. We have steamed very close to Russian carriers and they have us close enough to make out people faces. All part of naval tradition. Im sure in the pre war years these things happened quite simuliar with the Brits and Germany and other nations. Just feeling one another out is all.
Yes it used to be a lot more common. I always thought that the US declared X amount of space around a CBG that they did not allow foreign powers to penetrate though. I guess with Russia wanting to rattle the sabre more of this will be occurring.
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Old 02-12-2008, 23:21 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Yes it used to be a lot more common. I always thought that the US declared X amount of space around a CBG that they did not allow foreign powers to penetrate though. I guess with Russia wanting to rattle the sabre more of this will be occurring.
Yes for unidentified Fishing Boats....

Russians have caught the Americans napping many a times, and Americans are aware Russians are not there to shoot them, and shooting at Russians in International Sea and International airspace wont do them any good.
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Yes for unidentified Fishing Boats....
Are we talking the Indonesian nuclear-powered kind?
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Old 02-13-2008, 01:04 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Yes it used to be a lot more common. I always thought that the US declared X amount of space around a CBG that they did not allow foreign powers to penetrate though. I guess with Russia wanting to rattle the sabre more of this will be occurring.
Well, we could shoot them down... short of that there isn't a whole lot we can do to stop them.

Fortunately the Russians can't come close to matching us at sea. Back when they kept a Backfire Regiment on hand for every carrier we had they couldn't match us, and now they don't have a chance.
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Well, we could shoot them down... short of that there isn't a whole lot we can do to stop them.

Fortunately the Russians can't come close to matching us at sea. Back when they kept a Backfire Regiment on hand for every carrier we had they couldn't match us, and now they don't have a chance.
Nuclear Asymmtric warfare. Russians have decided not to match you, nor are in they position to, or can in the near future.
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:06 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I am surprised the US allowed it to fly-over the carrier. You would think the CAP would have done something to stop the bomber before it was able to so closely invade carrier airspace.
Honestly BadKharma,

I believe that the U.S. wanted the bombers to fly over!
Why?
Think about what has happened in the past..............
The U.S. navy aren't no fools!
First you have a Chinese sub surface within the Nimitz naval Battle group.
Now, you have a Russian bombers flying missions over that same group?
I call these exercises. They're both exercises for both the U.S. and China/Russia!!
For the Chinese sub that was confronted by the U.S. navy.........why did the Chinese sub surface???
If it was so quiet and so stealth, the sub would have not put itself in such danger by surfacing....
My opinion..........The U.S. fleet knew it was there, and the Chinese knew it too!! But by surfacing the Chinese could state that they got that close to a U.S. battle fleet by accident at first, but later," IN STATE CONTROLLED CHINESE PAPERS", say that China is becoming so powerful that it can sneak a Chinese Sub in a U.S. Battle Group," while the U.S. was using it as a hostile training exercises!

Why?? Because 1 Chinese sub could never take on an entire battle fleet!!

This supports my opinion on the Russian bombers.........

Ho, Hum, we're just Russian bombers on a training missions.........oh!!!!! wait!! what is this???????!!!! A U.S. Carrier Group going the same way we are going!! Oppppppppppsss!!

Yeah! Right!

The U.S. Carriers group knew where they were, and track them from a distance. The U.S. naval defense system is the most advanced in the world, and will shoot down anything from hundreds of miles away.
Did a few bombers, or 1, mean that a whole battle group was in danger? Hell no! Unless they had a A-bomb, but we aren't at war, so I think that China, and Russia might be trying to test U.S. naval ability!!

If not.........Just think.......... if the U.S. sunk the Chinese sub...........or shot down the Russian bombers.........

The U.S. would be viewed as hostile, but instead, we are venerable!!


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Nuclear Asymmtric warfare. Russians have decided not to match you, nor are in they position to, or can in the near future.
Nuclear Asymmetric warfare? Their nuclear arsenal is falling, and we can obliterate them with our secure second strike capability regardless of what they do. I don't really see nuclear war as a viable option for them against us.
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Nuclear Asymmetric warfare? Their nuclear arsenal is falling, and we can obliterate them with our secure second strike capability regardless of what they do. I don't really see nuclear war as a viable option for them against us.
They havent lost their second strike capability, The Deltas and Tyhoons still swim around. Their missiles are operational, more money is also being pumped in over Russian Defence forces. How long before they recover to atleast 60-70% of Soviet capacity.
They cannot take down the USA, but they still have more than 3000 nukes, Enough to make sure World IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
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