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Old 01-11-2007, 01:47 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Russia is 2nd superpower in the world, wake up. Nuke power determines your super power points.
No it doesn't. Is Israel a Superpower? France? India? All nuclear weapons give you is deterrence. They do not give a nation the ability to project power.

To be a Super Power, you need the ability to conduct and sustain Expeditionary Warfare. You need a Blue Water Navy. You need the ability to influence events on a global scale, be it militarily or economically.

The USSR had it. Russia doesn't.
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:22 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Ok you know more than I..
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:20 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Russia is 2nd superpower in the world, wake up. Nuke power determines your super power points.
WAKE UP? LMAO

Russia hasnt been a superpower for atleast the last ten years friend and poses absolutely no threat to the U.S. or NATO no matter where they are. Your "pipe dreaming"! to say the least
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:27 AM   #19 (permalink)
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It will be some fear for US pudel Israel, not for that fatty and lazy "all we know" NATO, if needed Russia have intercontinental missiles for it.
Ok obviously you dont know much about how Russia stands these days as your "super power". Russia is in NO PLACE NO CHANCE at threatening NATO especially by herself...lmao. Russia is clinging to its insignifigant Navy which outside of a few subs and a possible new set of corvettes isint much at all to call a navy.

As far as intercontinental missles go being fired by Russia at anybody now who really needs to "WAKE UP"?
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:43 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I think, Russia just wants to ensure its arms deliveries to Syria.

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Old 01-11-2007, 11:38 AM   #21 (permalink)
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that would be nice vacation spot for ru navy, i guess they are sick of cold bases by north pole. sun, beach, cuban cigars, corona with lime, that is haven for russian sailor.
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Old 01-11-2007, 13:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I think, Russia just wants to ensure its arms deliveries to Syria.
And thats about all they can do is sell arms to Iran and Syria. Hmm one has to question Russia's stance on arms trade and the WOT. By arming these two countries and those they shelter seems Russia is getting pretty desperate to hold their ground by arming terrorist supporting nations in that region. But once the U.N. light is shown upon them well see how they react once that U.S. "pudle" as Ruski calls them decides enough is enough from Iran and their Russian built reactors go up in a ball of fire. Then the Iranian people can thank both the Russians that arm a terrorist regime and the idiot holocust dening FOOL that leads them for the outcome.

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Old 01-11-2007, 17:26 PM   #23 (permalink)
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What does that mean “that's about all they can do”? What they have to do? I believe Russia’s position is simple : nothing personal, just a business. If USA don’t like Iran or Syria - this is USA’s problem. As I know the opinion of most of Americans is that Russian arms does not a matter for US. The US armed forces have an opportunity to confirm this opinion. If they want.
The United States see terrorists in those places where are benefits for them. And they don’t see there where no benefits. The United States were looking for terrorists in Iraq… And Americans didn’t find the terrorists in Saddam's Iraq, but terrorists found the Americans in "democratic" Iraq. That's strange, isn't that? Keep this way and there will be no place without terrorists on the Earth soon.
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Old 01-11-2007, 18:23 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I do not understand: than creation of one base causes so much emotions?
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I think, Russia just wants to ensure its arms deliveries to Syria.
One of several answers to a question: what for it is necessary.
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One of several answers to a question: what for it is necessary.
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Old 01-11-2007, 19:45 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I do not understand: than creation of one base causes so much emotions?
I don't think it really does, Firral. The emotions come out when people misinterpret the situation.

As noted, Russia wants the base for mainly symbolic reasons, and to provide a base for joint operations.

People may think that it will give Russia some great influence and "threaten Israel and NATO", but a floating mooring and a minor repair facility is hardly sufficient for such grand schemes.

In 20 years we might have a different opinion, but today it's nothing threatening.
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By building naval base in Syria this could be a mere indication of showing influence in the region..
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What does that mean “that's about all they can do”? What they have to do? I believe Russia’s position is simple : nothing personal, just a business. If USA don’t like Iran or Syria - this is USA’s problem. As I know the opinion of most of Americans is that Russian arms does not a matter for US. The US armed forces have an opportunity to confirm this opinion. If they want.
The United States see terrorists in those places where are benefits for them. And they don’t see there where no benefits. The United States were looking for terrorists in Iraq… And Americans didn’t find the terrorists in Saddam's Iraq, but terrorists found the Americans in "democratic" Iraq. That's strange, isn't that? Keep this way and there will be no place without terrorists on the Earth soon.
Countries that sponsor terrorism is not just a U.S. problem. Its the worlds problem and the world must deal with it. Not just the U.S..
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Old 01-12-2007, 15:49 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Countries that sponsor terrorism is not just a U.S. problem. Its the worlds problem and the world must deal with it. Not just the U.S..
I guess its not Mongolia's problem cuz there is nothing of value there for terrorists to blow up
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Old 01-12-2007, 15:56 PM   #30 (permalink)
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The Russians having a base in Syria is opening up avenues to influence the Mediterranean.

Right now, the Russian fleet is bottled up in the Caspian and all actions of the Russian Navy can be monitored or 'interfered' with since it has to pass through the Bosporus!
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