Officer of Engineers

Yes, it does. I have no idea why you're an idiot.

You have absolutely no idea about unit cohesion and human behaviour under combat conditions. Your imbecille personal observations is a disaster in the field where even the suggestion of someone having sex and others do not is a disaster for unit morale. You are not qualified to speak about a military policy to which you have little understanding and complete ignorance.

Military service is a ticket to military expertiese and I speak to God. I have not demonstrated my ignornace wheras you've more than done your share.

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PaulG

Lucky im not in his army then, i don't have to turn the other cheek.

PaulG

The sugestion i made was that it may be something that could be corrected, i pointed out it may be a problem now. But suggested a POSSIBLE solution.

Militaries are made up of members of a society, soldiers bring their cultural and individual idiosyncracies with them, im sure some of that gets busted out of them in basic. There is no reason why you cannot have an influence on the way an individual thinks and acts, governments do it all the time to promote cohesion in a society. As soldiers are members of a society its likely to be the same for them, combat stress or not. Or are you suggesting that training does nothing, and when soldiers come under combat stress they behave like idiots and ignore all common sense and training.

Your military experience gives you no right to shove your disgust of my suggestion into my face like that. The social aspects i mentioned and govenrment promotion of society is my field of knowledge, i doubt you have it over me on that one. Only a dope would go around dismissing everything he sees that doesnt fit his scope of knowledge because he arrogantly presumes he knows everything. Only a dope would would act that way at a mere suggestion in an open conversation.

Officer of Engineers

Of which you have absolutely no qualification to comment. On, I have my military background and experience as my qualifications. What qualifies you to comment on issues which you have no knowledge or expertise.

And this coming from you who have never experienced combat stress. How the hell do you know what combat stress effects are? Have you even read up on this issue? I have experienced it and read it and thought long and hard about it.

Put a bunch of 20 year old kids in a firefight for a week straight. Have all their officers and senior NCMs shot off. Then, face them with the absolute certainty that they will die within 10 hours. Put a woman in there and she's raped. There are no ifs, ands, or buts with it.

I showed my disgust at people who mouth off when they know squat!

Ray

PaulG,

Combat is a little difficult to understand than what is stated in novels and films.

In war and even in personal anecdotes of those who have fought never reveals the truth. There is bravery. There is cowardice (rarely spoken about) and massive flaps that somehow solves itself.

When a soldier states something, I reckon he knows what he is talking about or at least nearest the truth.

I have fought three officially declared wars. Were they what is written or spoken about? Maybe and maybe not!

PaulG

What qualifies me ! i'm a member of the human race <edited>! you are a real <edited>. read the <edited> UN declaration giving me the right to speak , and my own countries contstitution . no go and stroke you tin soldiers <edited>

Horrido: I really want to just delete this post, but I'll leave it up for at least a little bit in case anyone has a question why PaulG was banned. It wasn't for his views, but for his inability to control himself, vulgar language, and insults towards OoE.

Lunatock: Seems about right to me. You got yourself another confirmed kill, they always seem to shadow OOE. One less person that has no respect for the concept of staying on topic.

Btw. How are the Eagles doing this year Snipe?

Officer of Engineers

I guess that I will saying goodbye now.

Anon

Combat is all the emotions known to man rolled into one, magnified and intensified by a factor of 1000, and compressed into a situation of little sleep and often little food.

"You have never really lived, until you have almost died. For those who fight for it, life has a flavor that the protected will never know..." - Hemingway

Anon

"Not worth reading."

None of that changes the fact that you have no frame of reference upon which to base your theories. The military is unlike any other civilian social setting. That's just a fact.

BTW, nice internet bravery.

Horrido

Nice internet goodbye... Banned.

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The black flag is raised: Ban them all... Let the Admin sort them out.

I know I'm going to have the last word... I have powers of deletion and lock.

Anon

Nice shooting Ev.

Parihaka

but I wanted to know what <edited by board NKVD with little sense of humor and no tolerence for foul language> meant

Anon

"but I wanted to know what 'edited' meant"

Websters: See PaulG.

Parihaka

LOL

Horrido

He's the one that put the pistol to his head and pulled the trigger. I just burried him.