Anon

You will NEVER see this on the nightly news.

Allow me to play the part of your favorite reporter then.

Each link is a separate incident:

www.propertyrightsresearc...an_mil.htm

"The Border Patrol counts a border "incursion" as a sighting, contact or physical evidence of entry into the United States by a foreign law enforcement official between official ports of entry, said agency spokeswoman Gloria Chavez.

Between 200 and 250 incursions have been documented in the past five years, not counting accidental crossings, said U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, a Republican from Colorado and outspoken advocate of militarizing the border."

Simcox and Foote aren't the only ones who say the Mexican military's border activities protect immigrant and drug smuggling.

"The drug cartel employs the services of the Mexican military," Tancredo said.

He heads the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus, a group started in 1999 to address immigration issues in Congress.

"They're shipping drugs into the United States, that's what's going on," he said.

The military creates distractions for smugglers or protects loads of drugs and/or immigrants coming over the border, he said."

www.worldnetdaily.com/new...E_ID=15326

"On Mar. 14, shortly after 10 p.m. local time, "two Mexican army Humvees carrying about 16 armed soldiers drove across the international boundary and into the United States near Santa Teresa, New Mexico." There the vehicles pursued a Border Patrol vehicle, which was "outfitted with decals and emergency lights (that were activated for much of the pursuit) over a mile into the United States."

The lead Mexican army vehicle, the Border Patrol council said, contained nine soldiers "armed with seven automatic assault rifles, one submachine gun, and two .45 caliber pistols," and was eventually apprehended by other Border Patrol units. The second Humvee, however, "pursued a Border Patrol agent on horseback and fired a shot at him. The soldiers then disembarked their vehicle, fired upon one more Border Patrol agent and chased another agent before fleeing [back] to Mexico in their vehicle."

www.usvisanews.com/articl...1045.shtml

"Local ranchers and farmers are frustrated with the efforts of the Border Patrol. While the ranchers in Columbus have not yet armed themselves against illegal alien and smugglers who trespass on their farmland, they do speak of vigilante efforts already underway in Douglas, Arizona. Ralph Johnson a longtime rancher and farmer in Columbus, New Mexico, stated, "To an extent, this is one of the areas in years that hasn't been shut down. On this line it's pretty damn scary. It's kind of a war out here -- The only difference between the ranchers here and over there [Douglas, Arizona] is we haven't rebelled yet and [haven't been] getting after them."


NO LINK FOR THIS ONE, it appears on page 5 of a google search using the phrase "mexican soldiers caught in US"

"The Washington Times, October 6, 2002
"On any given day, 10,000 illegal aliens will cross the U.S.-Mexican border. About one in three will be caught and expelled. Among those who succeed, nearly half will become permanent U.S. residents. The vast majority of those who are caught will try again, frequently the very next day."

Today, record numbers of illegal aliens find their way to the United States, whose estimated illegal alien population is between 9 million and 11 million, or double the 1994 level.


www.freerepublic.com/focu...2503/posts

"Mexican soldiers in border crossings
Washington Times ^ | 5/13/02 | Steve Miller

"Heavily armed Mexican soldiers and police are crossing the U.S. border repeatedly, provoking charges from Capitol Hill that they are providing cover for drug smugglers and illegal immigrants.

Last year, there were 23 incursions documented by the U.S. Border Patrol, prompting Rep. Tom Tancredo to contact Mexican President Vicente Fox last week, asking for an end to these incidents."

www.worldnetdaily.com/new...E_ID=26852

"A U.S. Border Patrol officer has encountered four heavily armed Mexican army soldiers on the U.S. side of the border near San Diego.

The soldiers, armed with three submachine guns and one M-16 rifle, crossed the border near Tecate, Mexico, while on a counter-drug mission, Border Patrol spokesman James Jacques said. They were all dressed in camouflage fatigues, said officials.

A Border Patrol agent, who was not identified in the SanDeigoChannel.com report, said he was following footsteps left by the Mexican patrol. When he encountered them, one of the Mexican soldiers had his sidearm unholstered.

The agent then unholstered his sidearm and identified himself. He told superiors the Mexican troopers then realized they were inside the U.S. and cooperated with the Border Patrol agent, who took them to a nearby Border Patrol station.

Their identities were verified by the Mexican consulate and other U.S. officials before they were returned to Mexico via the San Ysidro Port of Entry. The report did not say whether their weapons were confiscated.

"This could easily have escalated into a real tragedy," Jacques told reporters. "Thankfully, cooler heads prevailed."

The Border Patrol's Washington, D.C., headquarters did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment.

The March 10 incident signals a growing trend of Mexican military forces crossing into the United States"


www.csdp.org/news/news/mexico.htm

"A Mexican governor has fired the entire state police force. The BBC News reported on April 13, 2004 ( "Mexican Police Force Suspended") that " A governor in Mexico has suspended his entire state police force after two senior officers were jailed amid accusations of aiding a drug cartel. The governor of the central state of Morelos, Sergio Estrada, said he was suspending the force of more than 550 officers pending an investigation. He said their weapons had been taken away and offices placed under guard."

According to the BBC, "Last week, the state chief of police Jose Augustin Montiel was arrested, along with his operations director Raul Cortez Galindo. Both were remanded in custody on suspicion of helping the powerful Juarez drug cartel fly cocaine shipments from Colombia into Mexico. The cartel - named for the northern border city where it is allegedly based - is said to be one of the country's major drug trafficking organisations."

www.prisonplanet.com/0202...icans.html

Armed Mexicans cross border?
U.S. 'volunteers,' journalists photograph mysterious militia

World Net Daily

A group of civilian volunteer U.S.-Mexico border watchers say they witnessed an incursion into the U.S. by 22 armed Mexican militiamen - and photographed the encounter with the paramilitary patrol.

Chris Simcox, editor and publisher of the Tombstone, Arizona, Tumbleweed and founder of Civil Homeland Defense, a group that attempts to aid the Border Patrol nab illegal aliens, said the confrontation occurred the morning of Saturday, Jan. 24. Simcox, accompanied by a photographer and a video journalist, says the trio ran into a "squad" of armed Mexicans in olive drab uniforms in two military-type vehicles.

www.enn.com/news/wire-sto..._47544.asp

"Drug runners, migrants crushing national parks along U.S.-Mexico border

Thursday, June 13, 2002
By Julie Watson, Associated Press

EL PINACATE BIOSPHERE RESERVE, Mexico — Drug traffickers scar volcanic desert with illicit runways, while law enforcement officials chase them through once-tranquil parks.
Thousands of migrants traipse across delicate backcountry areas, sending campers fleeing to ranger stations, fearful of crowds trekking by their tents in the night.

Wilderness areas on both sides of the U.S.-Mexico border are taking a beating from an onslaught of migrants, drug traffickers, and law enforcement officials, a new study says. Some national treasures in both countries have been lost forever."

www.civilhomelanddefense....litics.htm

An interesitng article on the Volunteer US militias that've been formed along the border.

This is a Washington post article on the Zetas, former Mexican Army commandos who've formed a group and hire their services out to the cartels to smuggle drugs into the US. This is also the group that's offered to smuggle Al Qaeda operatives into the US for $12,000 dollars each.

www.washingtonpost.com/ac...ge=printer

We're practicly at war down there. We've got 10,000 US troops tied up along the border at ths very moment.

s_qwert63

None of the links work!

Anon

Do a google search using the phrase "mexican soldiers caught in US"

All the links are in there. Apparently this site truncated the original links when i posted them.

ChrisF202

I saw this on FOX News about 2 years ago. This past May it was reported that Mexican soldiers on the Mexican side of the border opened fire on marked US Border Patrol and Bisbee PD vehicles on patrol, they did this to cover a group of drug runners and illegal aliens so they could cross the border while the cops were pinned down. I read on another site where a Border Patrol agent said that Mexican forces enter the US on a weekly basis. The border is like a warzone where we cant fight back for fear of straining ties with Mexico. Mexican military and police forces openly help and encourage illegal immigrantion and drug smuggling into the US. Mexico has an issue with us over the Southwest, in their school books they say that Mexico owns the Southwest US and that they should take it back ... which they are with their massive immigrants and these military excursions. In 1985 they even kidnapped a whole US family in Texas because they shot a drug runner.

I say we invade Mexico, it would also end the illegal immigrant problem. Sadly neither Bush nor Kerry cares about this invasion on the border.

Jay

do we need a hungry hostile neigbor on our borders? Apparently not, these incursions had to be dealt severely instead of a full scale invasion, so that they'll lick their wounds and remember it twice when ever they try to get illegally in to USA.

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Canada and the US have a similar problem with the Warriors, a Native American/Candain group exploiting the Native Treaty allowing open access between the two countries. Natives do not need to answer to either country's border authorities and are authorized to transport hunting weapons (read weapons of any kind) across the borders without challenge.

In the past, the Warriors have smuggled drugs, cigerettes, and weapons. They've also openned fire on "white" enforcement, prompting a military response on both sides of the border.

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Semper Fi

I think declaring war on mexico is the most ridiculous thing i ever heard its not only mexicans crossing the border people from el salvador,guetemala and honduras also cross the border why dont we declare war on them too if you wanna fix the illegal immagration problem why dont you declare war on the ******** who hire them then maybe the illegals could starve to death in their third world contries so more americans can have shitty jobs. As for the mexican military crossing the border they have no business being here but american troops dont have any business in mexico either im pretty sure US troops have also crossed the border into mexico.

ChrisF202

We dont cross the border 100 times a year and shoot at fully marked vehicles and officers from Mexico's Patrullas Fronteras (what they call their "border patrol") or their regular military.

OOE, do you have a link on these Indians? Sounds like the AIM movement and Wounded Knee in the 1970's all over again. We have an Indian tribe upstate that has their own military and police forces that in 1997 engaged in a shootout with New York State Police troopers on the NYS Thruway, they then fled back to the reservation and engaged in another shootout. Something like 5 troopers were wounded. George Patiki (NYS gov) wanted to send in the National Guard with tanks and Apache helicopters, but was advised to stand down to save lives. Ill try and find an article.

ChrisF202

Check out the Oneida Indian Nation Police website, below the picture it says: "A soverign nation police force"

http://www.oneida-nation.net/police/

The reason for the red uniform (which is their dress uniform btw, normal patrol uniforms are the blue and white ones in the pic), the reason for red is because to them, red means authority.

1997 Thruway Incident links:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/910199/posts
see bold wording

http://www.tobaccobymail.com/PATAKI.htm
see the pics of the Indian dancing on the NYSP car and the NYSP riot squad holding the line

Ill try and find some more links

Anon

Good job at posting without reading the links jarhead.

You succeeded in making yourself look silly.

Kudos.

Read the links, then tell me if you still feel the same way.

PS- when was the last time an El Salvadorean infantry patrol with weapons drawn was apprehened in the suburbs of San Diego?

Ray

Sniper,

Why invade Mexico? Just walk in. It will be easier and none will be wiser.

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Semper Fi

I still feel the same way we shouldnt invade mexico yeah their are some ******** coming over here but it doesnt mean we should take it out on everybody. We should probaby put some special op teams to set up ambushes to kill the rogue mexican soldiers who are smuggling drugs but with alot of special op troops in afghanistan and iraq i dont see a solution to this problem anytime soon.

Anon

I don't see a solution to this problem anytime either, but we've already got 10,000 troops tied up all along the border down there dealing with this nonsense.

ChrisF202

In 1916 we sent the whole US Army to patrol the border after Pancho Villa attacked Columbus, New Mexico and killed 19 innocent Americans. When that was not enough we sent the whole National Guard (except Coast Artillery units), that was over a million men.

Anon

We invaded them too. That action was called the "Mexican Incursion of 1915".
I believe it was led by BlackJack Pershing.