Ironduke

Any experts here on the situation with Greece and Turkey who can detail possible conflict scenarios between the two? What conflicts could erupt over, how fighting would play out, responses from, and actions of, other nations, etc.

ottoman

:RW the turks will beat the greeks because regardless of technology the greeks have always with the exception of the greek independance war "fallen to pieces" when fighting the turks who are more numerous better trained and have ruled over the greeks for four centuries the greeks dont have the stomach for it a rag tag army of pesants threw a well equiped greek army ( armed by britain) in to the sea at izmir and that was after sorting out the italians and french as well as the kurds and turks who were opposed to the young turks westernisation movement the turks have a 4000 year history of epic battles both defeats and victorys ps many other european powers helped the greeks win the independance war after the brutal methods the turks used were winning the war so the turks would win hands down

Ironduke

Hadn't the Greek army marched to Ankara and back before the defeat at Smyrna?

ottoman

:RW That may be true but they didnt fight the turks when the english asked them to they waited for the empire to collapse turkey to surrender and then came in thanks to the english invitation the turks built an army poorly trained and poorly equiped got rid of internal problems and later the greeks against all the odds were as in the greek independancde war and most wars between the turks and the greeks the greeks have had better allies and lets face it nobody likes the turks not the arabs not europe not asia not anyone due to the history of nomadic warfare from mongolia all the way to anatolia not a very good way to win many buddys. so the odds were strongly against the turks many turks thought that a british mandate was the best way out by 1918 and would have excepted it if the greeks didnt begin killing and raping innocent civilians after they did that "independane or death" became the slogan. look at american history independance is a great incentive.

Ironduke

Could you please speak coherently?

Right now you're ranting.

Thanks for the two periods in your last post, your previous one was a massive run-on.

ottoman

:nuke i do talk a lot dont i personnally ranting is a great form
of expression maybe i will become a great dictator one day only a very enlightened one

Officer of Engineers

We have no idea what you're saying. Unless you make an effort to make us understand your points, you're making yourself look like an idiot.

Make the effort.

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ottoman

:RW and a very trigger happy idiot

Ironduke

See the title under my name? You'd better hope that I'm not trigger-happy.

Make an effort to be articulate and concise, please.

bigross86

Hey! Those guns hes firing are completely in sync with "Smells Like Teen Spirit" which is playing on my computer. How cool is that?

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ottoman

nothing like a community leader you have my utmost respect.

Nobody wants to hear about that ottoman.

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ottoman

WHAT ABOUT THE COW THAT SPOKE TO ME ABOUT POLITICS I MEAN I DID SMOKE SOME **** BUT I SWEAR THAT COW WAS INTELLIGENT

No nobody wants to hear that and it violates board rules.

don't get vulgar or graphic with whacked out sayings

ottoman

Praxus

Ouch that has got to hurt

Ironduke

I warned him.

Anybody here have any real theories on possible conflict scenarios between Greece and Turkey?