Thread: Gandhi... A Hero or a Hypocrite?

India would have gotten Dominion Status if WWII had not occurred.

Originally Posted by aviator

I am an Atheist leave aside Hindu fanatic but Gandhi was a sickular hypocrite, in case of Hindu-Muslim riots , more the number of Hindus were killed higher was his flag of secularism.

Let me tell you an interesting piece of history which under congress rule you would may not get to see in Indian History textbooks:-

Gandhi, the moulana of Muslim appeasement-II

Dr B R Ambedkar paid his tribute to the Muslim Appeasement Bible of Moulana Mahatma Gandhi in these brilliant words: 'Gandhi has never called the Muslims to account even when they have been guilty of gross crimes against Hindus. It is a notorious fact that many prominent Hindus who had offended the religious susceptibilities of the Muslims either by their writings or by their part in the Shudhi Movement have been murdered by some fanatic Musalmans. The leading Muslims never condemned these criminals. On the contrary, they were hailed as religious martyrs.... This attitude of the Muslims is understandable. What is not understandable is the attitude of Mr Gandhi.'

Dr Ambedkar was not talking through his hat about the anti-Hindu and pro-Muslim attitude of Mahatma Gandhi. Thousands of Hindu women were raped and many of them killed by the Moplah Muslims during the Moplah rebellion in 1921

The atrocities committed by the Moplah rebels were widely reported in the English and vernacular newspapers of the day throughout India and the British Empire. Mahatma Gandhi was fully aware of every development in Malabar during this time. But his overweening egoism blinded his eyes to such an extent that he was unable to see the realities on the ground. A Peoples' Conference presided over by the Zamorin, Maharaja of Malabar, was held in 1921. The following resolution was passed at this Conference:

'This Conference views with indignation and sorrow the attempts made in various quarters by interested parties to ignore or minimise the crimes committed by the Moplah rebels such as:

a) Brutality dishonouring women

b) Flaying people alive

c) Wholesale slaughter of men, women and children

d) Burning alive entire families

e) Forcibly converting people in thousands and slaying those who refused to get converted

f) Throwing half dead people into wells and leaving the victims for hours to struggle for escape till finally released from their suffering by death

g) Burning a great many and looting practically all Hindu and Christian houses in the disturbed areas in which even Moplah women and children took part and robbing women of even the garments on their bodies, in short, reducing the whole non-Muslim population to abject destitution.

h) Cruelly insulting the religious sentiments of the Hindus by desecrating and destroying numerous temples in the disturbed areas, killing cows within the temple precincts, putting their entrails on the holy image and hanging the skulls on the walls and roofs.

Annie Besant exposed the atrocities committed by the Moplah rebels in Malabar as a fearless journalist. Let us hear her describe an act and scene of rape in Malabar: 'Words fail to express my feelings of indignation and abhorrence which I experienced when I came to know of an instance of rape, committed by the rebels under Chembrasseri Thangal. A respectable Nair lady at Melathur was stripped naked by the rebels in the presence of her husband and brothers who were made to stand close by with their hands tied behind. When they shut their eyes in abhorrence, they were compelled at the point of a sword to open their eyes and witness the rape committed by the brute in their presence. I loathe even to write of such a mean action. This instance of rape was communicated to me by one of her brothers confidentially. There are several instances of such mean atrocities which are not revealed by people....'

Now here is extract from B.R Ambedkar's book about attitude of Moulana gandhi towards muslim appeasement:-

Mr. Gandhi's tenacious quest for Hindu-Muslim unity

Mr. Gandhi has been very punctilious in the matter of condemning any and every act of violence and has forced the Congress, much against its will to condemn it. But Mr. Gandhi has never protested against such murders. Not only have the Musalmans not condemned/10/ these outrages but even Mr. Gandhi has never called upon the leading Muslims to condemn them. He has kept silent over them. Such an attitude can be explained only on the ground that Mr. Gandhi was anxious to preserve Hindu-Moslem unity and did not mind the murders of a few Hindus, if it could be achieved by sacrificing their lives.

This attitude to excuse the Muslims any wrong, lest it should injure the cause of unity, is well illustrated by what Mr. Gandhi had to say in the matter of the Mopla riots.

The blood-curdling atrocities committed by the Moplas in Malabar against the Hindus were indescribable. All over Southern India, a wave of horrified feeling had spread among the Hindus of every shade of opinion, which was intensified when certain Khilafat leaders were so misguided as to pass resolutions of "congratulations to the Moplas on the brave fight they were conducting for the sake of religion." Any person could have said that this was too heavy a price for Hindu-Moslem unity. But Mr. Gandhi was so much obsessed by the necessity of establishing Hindu-Moslem unity that he was prepared to make light of the doings of the Moplas and the Khilafats who were congratulating them. He spoke of the Moplas as the "brave God-fearing Moplas who were fighting for what they consider as religion and in a manner which they consider as religious."
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Now a person who praises muslim mass murderers as hero's and is happy when Hindus are killed would be called Moulana not Mahatma.

Nice, for you to qoute something from Kerala, guess what einstien I am a malayalee. Throughout Human history, we have fought one another, did things to each other that even god cant forgive. It was not in the character of Mahatma Gandhi to be the torch bearer of Hindu community, he was a person who wanted peace, advocated non-violence. What do you think he should have done, Called up Hindu's to kill the muslims. Thats something I would have done, but thats not something he would have done.
You are definitely not an atheist, cause you have certain prejudice to one form of religion. What about Gujarat Riots etc etc, what about the Apartheid charactersitics of the Nair community in Kerala(Nair is high caste).
If I keep going back in history, there is dirt on every community which exsisted in this world, wether it is internal or external.

It was not in his character to propagate violence!!! Even when Violence was needed to bring justice. I dont agree with it, but thats just him. Thats why he is revered around the world.

Originally Posted by aviator

Well man , I am not praising Hitler or Nazism. Hitler was an evil person , no doubt about that but What I mean to say is that had there been no World War II and British Empire wouldn't have been weakened then most British colonies would not have got Independence. If you do some research not just India but large number of British colonies got Independence few yrs after World War II and all of them didn't had gandhi to give them independence. World War II was a huge factor for Indian Independence.

Indian Independence Movement started gaining strength from 1931. Learn your history.