More than 50000 American lost their lifes in Korean War.

**~~throw111~~** · 04 Jun 09,, 17:11

More than 50000 American lost their lifes in Korean War.And the
CCP help the north Vietnam kill american soldier in Vietnam War.
why the American goverment give up support the China Kuomintang PARTY
in 1949, why why ??? China KMT ,the ally with American in the second
WAR,who save many ,many american and english soldiers life in the
second war fight against Japan.
But KMT can not save american and english people life any longer in
the neclear war.if the China Communist party army use the neclear
weapons attack America , Tens of millions of American people will be
killed at least.When thousands of nuclear bombs fly into sky.Oh,my
God!!!the end of the world. The earth has no peace forever.War occur
in anytime.Let us prepare to fight.

China Communist party ,the most evil and dreadful power in the
world.They are liar and dictatorship.Never trust CCP. CCP has a lot
of spys on the west country, American goverment should monitor CCP
officals and their family whom lived in American, prevent they do any
illegal activity in America. I think West country must help KMT
and Taiwan stronger. Don't let CCP unify and cheat KMT,or cheat
anybody.
I come from Taiwan .I am the Kuomintang PARTY member .

**Dreadnought** · 04 Jun 09,, 17:35

And we ask why we didnt stomp the shit out of them in that war. Hence what we are dealing with today with Kims regime.

**Officer of Engineers** · 04 Jun 09,, 17:35

And the KMT was better?

**ChrisF202** · 04 Jun 09,, 18:09

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

And the KMT was better?

Communism killed far more people then anything to the right of it could have ever dreamed of killing. Hitler was a pansy compared to Stalin and Mao. All the far right dictators combined don't even come close to either one of them alone.

**gunnut** · 04 Jun 09,, 18:26

Originally Posted by ChrisF202

Communism killed far more people then anything to the right of it could have ever dreamed of killing. Hitler was a pansy compared to Stalin and Mao. All the far right dictators combined don't even come close to either one of them alone.

Which brings up a question. Why did we cooperate with Joey Stalin to defeat Adolf, if Joey is worse?

**tankie** · 04 Jun 09,, 18:30

Originally Posted by gunnut

Which brings up a question. Why did we cooperate with Joey Stalin to defeat Adolf, if Joey is worse?

Business .

**Tarek Morgen** · 04 Jun 09,, 18:32

First because Hitler was winning, later because Germany declared war on the US. Stalin did not. And the more troops Germany had to send east, the less dead us soldiers in the west.

The liberation of France (and the rest of western europe) was already bloody enough for the allies. Now imagen the same campaign including the German Forces tied up in the east.

**Officer of Engineers** · 04 Jun 09,, 18:41

Originally Posted by ChrisF202

Communism killed far more people then anything to the right of it could have ever dreamed of killing.

We've dealt with this before. Population decline (meaning people who were not borned) were counted as deaths in this statistic, especially for the Chinese.

Originally Posted by ChrisF202

Hitler was a pansy compared to Stalin and Mao. All the far right dictators combined don't even come close to either one of them alone.

Chiang Kei Shek let millions starve instead of taking on the Japanese.

**gunnut** · 04 Jun 09,, 18:45

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Chiang Kei Shek let millions starve instead of taking on the Japanese.

Sir, can you elaborate a little on this one?

**Tarek Morgen** · 04 Jun 09,, 18:47

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

We've dealt with this before. Population decline (meaning people who were not borned) were counted as deaths in this statistic, especially for the Chinese.

I don't I understand that sentence correctly. Could you explain it a bit more or point me into a direction where I could read more about it?

**Officer of Engineers** · 04 Jun 09,, 18:47

The IJA disrupted the food transportation network.

**Officer of Engineers** · 04 Jun 09,, 18:50

Originally Posted by Tarek Morgen

I don't I understand that sentence correctly. Could you explain it a bit more or point me into a direction where I could read more about it?

The famine during Mao's years caused deaths with some claims to the tune of 30-40 million. Only problem with that is that China's population did not decline by 30-40 million. What the people claiming about China's deaths did was to take the birth rates upto the famines and stated that had it not been for the famines that there should be 30-40 million more people.

Several problems with that.

1) People stop having babies
2) How do you know the birth rates of a 3rd world country like China, especially during the war years?

Don't get me wrong. Mao was a butcher. But he should be charged with real crimes instead of imaginary ones.

**Tarek Morgen** · 04 Jun 09,, 19:03

Ok so he did not kill 30-40 millions but the famince caused a "lack" of 30-40 million people.

**gunnut** · 04 Jun 09,, 19:04

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

The famine during Mao's years caused deaths with some claims to the tune of 30-40 million. Only problem with that is that China's population did not decline by 30-40 million. What the people claiming about China's deaths did was to take the birth rates upto the famines and stated that had it not been for the famines that there should be 30-40 million more people.

Several problems with that.

1) People stop having babies
2) How do you know the birth rates of a 3rd world country like China, especially during the war years?

Don't get me wrong. Mao was a butcher. But he should be charged with real crimes instead of imaginary ones.

Sounds like our government accounting at work.

It's a "budget cut" if the budget rose less than the anticipated amount.

**gunnut** · 04 Jun 09,, 19:12

Originally Posted by Tarek Morgen

First because Hitler was winning, later because Germany declared war on the US. Stalin did not. And the more troops Germany had to send east, the less dead us soldiers in the west.

The liberation of France (and the rest of western europe) was already bloody enough for the allies. Now imagen the same campaign including the German Forces tied up in the east.

I forgot about that little inconvenience.

It would be a good "what if..." scenario if US entered the war against the Soviet Union.