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Old 12-27-2006, 13:32 PM   #16 (permalink)
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at least they were hilarious.

i remember watching a commie propaganda film touting the superiority of chinese medicine over western medicine, and they involved poor SOBs undergoing MAJOR heart and brain surgery with no anesthesia...only acupuncture. and because they were being watched, the whole time they had the most ghastly, creepy forced smiles ever. now THAT was inaccurate, but it was neither laughable nor a war movie.

needless to say i prefer my western brainwashing over the commie one.
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Old 12-27-2006, 14:54 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Pearl Harbor was the first thing that came to my mind. After some thought, Enemy at the Gates showed up, especially the end scene.

Top Gun has to be one of the worst film about military, ever!!! Although it was depicting a fictional conflict. I especially love how Goose died. And dressing up T-38 as Mig-28 (or some other weird even number for a Mig, which is just so wrong) was funny too.
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Old 12-27-2006, 14:58 PM   #18 (permalink)
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You are wrong. Acupuncture has been successfully used for major operations, and without the side effects of the chemicals that would otherwise be needed. The patients feel no pain, and can converse normally with the medical staff during the procedure. We know it works, but we in the west cannot understand how it works, and being conservative in the ethics of the medical profession, are not likely to switch from current doctrines.
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Old 12-27-2006, 15:11 PM   #19 (permalink)
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"The Devil's Brigade" with William Holden. It was full of historical inaccuracy to give it more Hollywood appeal, but it was still enjoyable to watch.
Another very enjoyable movie was "Zulu" about the battle at Rourke's drift. I think it was fairly accurate though.
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Old 12-27-2006, 15:20 PM   #20 (permalink)
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You are wrong. Acupuncture has been successfully used for major operations, and without the side effects of the chemicals that would otherwise be needed. The patients feel no pain, and can converse normally with the medical staff during the procedure. We know it works, but we in the west cannot understand how it works, and being conservative in the ethics of the medical profession, are not likely to switch from current doctrines
it has been successfully used, but for major operations acupuncture is often used in conjunction with and not in place of anesthesia. there's a reason why even chinese hospitals no longer exclusively use acupuncture, and it's surely not because they have a blind faith in the superiority of western medicine.
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Old 12-27-2006, 15:24 PM   #21 (permalink)
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going back to the topic of this thread,

holy crap, i just remembered what has got to be the worst of all time, Behind Enemy Lines. a long movie about owen wilson running...and running...and running.
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Old 12-27-2006, 15:43 PM   #22 (permalink)
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"the green berets", by john wayne. and on the other side, "apocalypse now", although whether or not that counts as a war movie can be debated.
You communist!

The Duke was and will always be a legend!!!!
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:56 AM   #23 (permalink)
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This is not a war movie, but Gladiator bugs me sometimes with the thumb gestures. A thumb down is to let the downed gladiator live, and the movie conveyed the total opposite message.

War-wise, I'm surprised no one has picked up the inaccuracies of Midway. I don't want to go into all the details, but I recommend those who are interested in that battle to pick up the relatively new book, Shattered Sword, for that it reveals many inaccuracies about the battle that are commonly held as true in western books. A review of the book here:

http://ww2db.com/read.php?read_id=34

I agree that Tora Tora Tora is a great film both in terms of entertainment value and accuracy. I know, it's not perfectly accurate, but sometimes Hollywood needs to bend a few things to make a movie more entertaining. After all, Hollywood makes money more so by entertaining than educating.
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Old 12-28-2006, 12:04 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You communist!

The Duke was and will always be a legend!!!!
A draft dodger, but you're right a legend!!!
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'The Longest Day'(I can't comment on the hardware). 'Great Escape'.

Both don't have swear words in them. So not realistic in that sense.

Edit: Add 'A Bridge Too Far'.
While I'm sure there was plenty of swearing going on, e.g. FUBAR, etc, I think modern movies may err in the opposite direction. Both my grandfathers were in WWII; one of them always said there was much less swearing in the army than is portrayed in the movies, and neither of them was in the habit of swearing very much. Interestingly, I was reading a review of Windtalkers, the movie about the Navaho codespeakers. The reviewer talked to one of the surviving codespeakers, and one of his only problems with the film was that it had much more swearing than he remembered. I have a feeling such things depended in large part on the unit you were in. If you were in a unit with lots of southerners the amount of swear words would decrease greatly, for example.
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going back to the topic of this thread,

holy crap, i just remembered what has got to be the worst of all time, Behind Enemy Lines. a long movie about owen wilson running...and running...and running.
Gotta agree with you there. That movie stands out in my mind as well.
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hey...hey...i liked "sands of iwo jima"?

the green berets were NOT his best days.
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And dressing up T-38 as Mig-28 (or some other weird even number for a Mig, which is just so wrong) was funny too.
yea.... lol, I believe they used "Mig-28"...
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how about the "Hot Shots" movies??? lol... simply amazing, especially when they bomb saddam...
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Old 12-28-2006, 14:12 PM   #30 (permalink)
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1.Top Gun

2.Pearl Harbour.


At the other end of the spectrum

Saving Private Ryan,Black Hawk Down and Band of Brothers series.


Btw...not a war movie...but have anyone of you seen the Lord of War starring Nicholas Cage?

I liked that dialogue..."Keeping track of nuclear arsenels - you'd thing that more critical to world security. But it's not. No, nine out of ten war victims today are killed with assault rifles and small arms - like yours. Those nuclear weapons sit in their silos. Your AK-47, that's the real weapon of mass destruction."

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