ELECTION 2008 | The Pub | The Field Mess | The Staff College | Bookmark WAB



Go Back   World Affairs Board > History of International Conflict > Warfare in the Modern Age
Register FAQ WAB RSS Feed Forum GuidelinesMembers List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Greetings, and welcome to the World Affairs Board!

The World Affairs Board is one of the premier forums for the discussion of the pressing geopolitical issues of our time. Topics include foreign & defense policy, international security, military developments, weapons proliferation, terrorism, international strategic affairs, and politics. Our membership includes many from military, defense industry, and government backgrounds with expert knowledge on a wide range of topics. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so why not register a World Affairs Board account and join our community today?
View Poll Results: Which military was the greatest of all time
Mongol/Golden Horde 45 26.47%
Imperial French (Napoleon) 6 3.53%
Alexanders Macedonians 15 8.82%
Imperial Rome 27 15.88%
Han China 5 2.94%
WW2 US military 16 9.41%
WW2 Red Army 12 7.06%
Modern US Military 30 17.65%
Napoleonic Era British 12 7.06%
Huns 5 2.94%
Classical Sparta 12 7.06%
Other 19 11.18%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 170. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 11-22-2007, 07:56 AM   #136 (permalink)
Ucar
Military Professional
 
Join Date: 06-19-07
Posts: 312
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big K View Post
Golden Horde was semi -Turk,

Huns were all Turk but yes Ottomans are needed in this comparison...
Huns were not all Turks.

"Recent genetic research shows that each of the great confederations of steppe warriors were not ethnically homogeneous, but rather unions of multiple ethnicities of Ural-Altaic clans such as Turkic, Ugric, Finnic, Tungus and some Mongolic peoples."

Huns - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ucar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2008, 00:42 AM   #137 (permalink)
beansprout
Regular
 
beansprout's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-28-08
Location: Sydney
Posts: 30
Country:
Wheres carthage?
__________________
He conquers who endures - Persius
beansprout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2008, 01:10 AM   #138 (permalink)
Officer of Engineers
Military Professional
Moderator
Scotch taster
 
Join Date: 08-06-03
Posts: 17,070
Country:
Why? They lost ... even when they won.
__________________
Chimo
Officer of Engineers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2008, 01:21 AM   #139 (permalink)
BadKharma
Patron
 
BadKharma's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-18-08
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 261
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
Why? They lost ... even when they won.
LOL now that is a good one.
BadKharma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008, 13:19 PM   #140 (permalink)
happymango99
New Member
 
Join Date: 02-18-08
Posts: 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grim View Post
I feel Sparta realy proved it self in the battle of Thermopylas fought by King Leonidas and about 300-29000 Spartans and Greeks against Xerxes with his 2 to 5 million Persians. Yes they lost but taught the Mighty Persians the worth of 1 Spartan warrior. I'm not sure what the true troop strengths were but it was real rough odds anyway you look at it. It took treason for Xeres to win.
2-5 million? way to big Persian empire had only c.70 million people many modern estimate put Xerxes army at around 200 000- 500 000
happymango99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2008, 07:04 AM   #141 (permalink)
citanon
Contributor
 
Join Date: 11-13-07
Posts: 354
Late to this thread but I'd have to say the modern US military + rest of NATO. Faced down the USSR which had the ability to destroyed the entire world in 30 minutes. Plus, even though the standoff went on for forty years, the military consumed little enough resources that the folks at home were able to enjoy the greatest explosion in wealth in the history of mankind.
citanon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2008, 02:07 AM   #142 (permalink)
troung
A Self Important
Senior Contributor
 
troung's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-03-03
Posts: 4,390
Country:
Quote:
the ottoman army under bayezid yildirim was one of the best . the Thunderbolt of turkey nearly conquered eastern europe.
Until he faced Timur.
__________________
To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightened and civilized people is to deride ones own dignity and to invite the disaster of their treachery - General Matthew Ridgway
troung is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2008, 09:02 AM   #143 (permalink)
Big K
FreeGeneral
Senior Contributor
 
Big K's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-11-06
Location: Istanbul
Posts: 1,258
Country:
Send a message via Skype™ to Big K
Quote:
Originally Posted by troung View Post
Until he faced Timur.
what a waste...
__________________
I'm not willing to remain silent even there will be no effect when i say.
Big K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2008, 20:41 PM   #144 (permalink)
troung
A Self Important
Senior Contributor
 
troung's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-03-03
Posts: 4,390
Country:
Not for Timur.
troung is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2008, 23:19 PM   #145 (permalink)
retaxis
Banished
 
Join Date: 03-12-08
Posts: 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grim View Post
I feel Sparta realy proved it self in the battle of Thermopylas fought by King Leonidas and about 300-29000 Spartans and Greeks against Xerxes with his 2 to 5 million Persians. Yes they lost but taught the Mighty Persians the worth of 1 Spartan warrior. I'm not sure what the true troop strengths were but it was real rough odds anyway you look at it. It took treason for Xeres to win.
I don't want to seem rude or anything but do you have idiot stapled on your head? Modern day estimates by professionals from all over the world cites that the persians had a maximum number of 200,000 soldiers but anywhere between 50000-150000 is also very reasonable.

Sparta alone could field over 30000 soldiers not including other city states such as the thespians or the athenians whom were much larger. It was no 1v10, it was most likely 1v1.
retaxis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2008, 01:23 AM   #146 (permalink)
Officer of Engineers
Military Professional
Moderator
Scotch taster
 
Join Date: 08-06-03
Posts: 17,070
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by retaxis View Post
Sparta alone could field over 30000 soldiers not including other city states such as the thespians or the athenians whom were much larger. It was no 1v10, it was most likely 1v1.
I am going to call you an IDIOT from this point on. What was the opposing strength at Platea?
Officer of Engineers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2008, 12:48 PM   #147 (permalink)
JAD_333
Defense Professional
 
JAD_333's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-15-07
Location: Virginia
Posts: 3,119
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by retaxis View Post
Sparta alone could field over 30000 soldiers not including other city states such as the thespians or the athenians whom were much larger. It was no 1v10, it was most likely 1v1.
I doubt your numbers. With a 1 to 1 parity, the combined forces of Greece would have won the battle. They were superior fighters and had far better equipment. In the first attack it is said only 3 Spartens were lost to several thousand Assyrians. No way the bulk of Greeks forces would have withdrawn had they been close to parity.
__________________
To be Truly ignorant, Man requires an Education. (Plato)
JAD_333 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2008, 08:18 AM   #148 (permalink)
Teskilatmahsusa
New Member
 
Teskilatmahsusa's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-26-08
Location: Istanbul
Posts: 15
Country:
This list is missing.

I think not the hollywood movies but the below parameters should be taken into consideration:

-the power of the army in terms of numbers
-the number of victories it had
-the length of period that it dominated the history
-the size of the land it ruled and kept in hand
-the technology level it had (according to its time period)

and the most important

-what is left from it NOW ! (what it was able to bring up to today)

So my opinion is - no suspect - Ottoman Empire and then the Roman Empire follows.
Teskilatmahsusa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2008, 17:05 PM   #149 (permalink)
American Empire
Banished
Regular
 
Join Date: 06-27-08
Posts: 104
- Roman Legions
- Mongol Hordes
- La Grande Armée
- British Army (in its prime)
- Deutsches Wehrmacht
- Soviet Army
- US Military

to name a few.
American Empire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2008, 06:25 AM   #150 (permalink)
Deltacamelately
Military Professional
 
Deltacamelately's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-29-07
Posts: 1,104
Country:
Isn't the Mauryan Empire worth mentioning?
It was quite vast and modern.
Even the Gupta's are worth mentioning.
__________________
I am the DARK that Rise to Kill..And Soar to Redeem!
Deltacamelately is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Iraq in Books - Review Essay Shek The War in Iraq 9 02-29-2008 06:08 AM
Interview with PLAAF LGen Liu Yazhou Officer of Engineers The Field Mess 34 05-10-2007 15:44 PM
Neocons Baiting Iran With Second Strike Group maddog88 Political Discussions 59 01-30-2007 01:48 AM
Principles of War for the Battlefield of the Future Ray The Field Mess 2 11-05-2006 10:42 AM
@ I don't think US should be the leader of the world.. MIKEMUN Political Discussions 17 03-16-2005 01:41 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 23:06 PM.


Rochen is the business hosting sponsor of World Affairs Board and a provider of reseller web hosting services.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8