Officer of Engineers

Trooth,

You're asking us to prove a negative - that Saddam has no intention nor capabilites to use WMDs against the West.

Your very own LCol Tim Collins, 1st Battalion, Royal Irish Regiment believed the same intelligence as did I. He and I took the very same oath for the Queen's Commission to which we are trusted to perform our duties to the best of our abilities.

I find it very difficult to believe that two Queen's Officers are that stupid in coming to the same conclusion based upon two different set of evidences.

TW-ACS,

JUST WHO THE **** ARE YOU, ****ING *******! DON'T YOU DARE SPEAK TO THE GENERAL IN THAT TONE! YOU HAVE NOT EARN THAT PRIVLEDGE!

I DON'T ****ING CARE WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW ****! THE GENERAL AND I BLED THE SAME KIND OF BLOOD IN THE SAME KIND OF MUD.

YOU ARE JUST SMOKING HEMP!

WE'VE SEEN WAR. WE'VE BLED WAR. JUST WHO THE **** ARE YOU TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW BETTER THAN WE DO?

IF YOU WANT OUR OPINIONS, ASK BUT DON'T DARE FOR ONE SECOND THAT YOU CAN DICTATE HOW WE ARE TO ANSWER TO YOU.

I'VE CHEWED BIGGER ******** THAN YOU!

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Chimo

Trooth

I am confused now! I thought i was asking that it be proved that he had them, and if he didn't to find out why we thought he did. In fact i thought the coalition were asking Saddam to prove he didn't have them.

I have the utmost respect for both of you. And for anyone in uniform.

My point isn't that you, say, are stupid because you misinterpreted the evidence, my point is that the evidence presented to you was flawed. I am sure you made an intellgient assessment of it. If i tell you it is raining, i am sure you would bring an umbrella. If it isn't raining that itsn't your fault!

tw-acs

Officer of Engineers I mean no disrespect to any veterans.
I have the most respect for persons serving their country in battle.
I am concerned about whether we needed to put more men in harms way.
I respect all of the people that post on this forum.
What did I say?
Profanity directed at members of the forum is not allowed. Why do you stoop so low?

You are yelling, very mature and adult of you.

Why would anyone smoke hemp?

I never said I know better. I am addressing an issue with facts that I know.

I will post how I want to post. I have a constitutional right, the freedom of speach; you shall not dictate what my posts and responses will be.

I dont want to know about your sex life.

I mean no offense what did I say?

Confed999

Nope, SH was to turn them over, show where they were destroyed, or get out of the country.

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No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

Trooth

Isn't that him proving to us that he didn't have them? I.e. if you've got them give them up, if you haven't got them show us what you did with them? What if he didn't have them to do away with?

Confed999

Then he should have taken the third choice. Had he complied with the UNSCRs up until that point, there wouldn't have been any question. He didn't comply, he didn't cooperate, he placed restrictions on inspectors anytime they were allowed into Iraq and he insisted he had them as well as insisting he didn't. The only way to be sure,either way, was what happened.

Officer of Engineers

I thank you for your compliments.

However, I would remind you that it is not us who are obligated to prove anything to start a war.

It is Saddam's obligation to prove everything to stop a war.

Those were the terms of surrender and clearly Saddam failed, despite what France and Germany want to portary otherwise,

Therefore, it is France and Germany asking us to prove a negative - that Saddam did not live up to those terms of surrnder.