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Old 05-14-2005, 23:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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"The Mystery of the Insurgency"

I just read this from PowerLine, a conservative blog that I have found to be VERY insightful and mature.

I reproduce here a piece that covered - refuted, actually - a New York Times column.

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Several readers have pointed out James Bennet's article in today's New York Times on "The Mystery of the Insurgency." We'll turn the floor over to Dafydd ab Hugh for an extended analysis of why Bennet's myopic approach, which is typical of most mainstream commentary on the "insurgency," is so wrong-headed:

{From Bennet's article commenting on the Times' article}Probably harder to figure out than Freud's plaintive cry. At least, the New York Times is completely befuddled in "the Mystery of the Insurgency."

{From the Times' article that Bennett is commenting on}The insurgents in Iraq are showing little interest in winning hearts and minds among the majority of Iraqis, in building international legitimacy, or in articulating a governing program or even a unified ideology or cause beyond expelling the Americans. They have put forward no single charismatic leader, developed no alternative government or political wing, displayed no intention of amassing territory to govern now.

Rather than employing the classic rebel tactic of provoking the foreign forces to use clumsy and excessive force and kill civilians, they are cutting out the middleman and killing civilians indiscriminately themselves, in addition to more predictable targets like officials of the new government. Bombings have escalated in the last two weeks, and on Thursday a bomb went off in heavy traffic in Baghdad, killing 21 people.

This surge in the killing of civilians reflects how mysterious the long-term strategy remains - and how the rebels' seeming indifference to the past patterns of insurgency is not necessarily good news for anyone.


{From Bennet's article commenting on the Times' article}The Times should have given me a call; I know exactly what the "insurgents" want... and the Times's befuddlement is to a large extent because of how they frame the question -- the mystery of the insurgency.

The Times assumes that the killers in Iraq are, in fact, "insurgents." But insurgents have a political plan; no matter how brutal they may be, they see their violence as leading to a political change -- the government will be cast out to be replaced by a new government, typically themselves. Thus, they tend to create shadow directorates that mimic the functions of a government; they have spokespeople who explain their political goals; they try to seize territory to prove they can run it better than the current regime, solving for the people there whatever burning issue is driving the insurgency (land distribution, famine, whatever).

But this is to assume what the Times purportedly wants to discover. If you begin by assuming the killers are "insurgents," then you have limited your conclusions to some Vietnam-style political revolution. Put another way, if you start by assuming that they are insurgents -- then you must wind up concluding that they are insurgents.

But if you look with a more open mind, the closest-fit historical model is not that of the followers of Uncle Ho in Vietnam from the 50s through the mid-70s, or the Algerian insurgency against the French in the 1950s, or the attempts at independence by the Kosovars against the Serbs in the late 90s.

Rather, the best historical precedents are the Aztecs, who turned mere human sacrifice into an art form by killing more and more and more people until they literally may have slaughtered an end to their own empire. Their intent was not to achieve some political goal; they already ruled. Rather, they developed the theological notion that the more people they butchered, the more pleased their bloody gods would be.

With that gloss, the Iraq "insurgency" comes suddenly into crystal-clear focus, like the beginning of the TV show the Outer Limits: the killers in Iraq have no political goal. That is not the point.

The point is to kill. They have invented a whole new kind of murder... they are serial spree killers.

The distinction between a serial killer and a spree killer is that the first kills methodically over time, trying to evade capture so he can continue his murderous pastime; while the second has one violent incident in which he kills a bunch of people, then often kills himself or expects to be slain by the police. What we see today in Iraq is a combination of the two: terror bosses who methodically, over time, set up mass killing events, usually carried out by others who will die in the attempt, but sometimes remotely by themselves (sending a chained driver cruising the streets, then detonating the driver's car when he nears a target of opportunity).

But like serial and spree killers, like those who commit human sacrifice, the motivation is found not in the external world but in his own internal hell, in the voice that only he can hear, from his bloody, eldrich gods, who demand blood and souls, blood and souls in the name of Moloch, or Arioch, or Cthulhu, or Huitzilopochtli, who demand mass sacrifices in the Grand Pyramid (or the Great Mosque -- and it is significant that one of the favorite targets for the killers are mosques full of worshippers, as if they saw their red-dripping thunderclap as an explosive "amen" to the service).

This has significance in strategy. If this were a political insurgency, we would expect it to respond to changes in the political weather, even disbanding when it becomes clear that they have failed to win the hearts and minds of the people. But if the point is a holocaust of human sacrifice -- if instead of winning the people's hearts, they want to cut them out and display them to the cheering crowd, not particularly caring who the victims may be -- then they are like the Terminators of the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie: they cannot be bargained with, or reasoned with; they will show no pity or remose; and they absolutely will not stop until all in Iraq are dead... or until they are destroyed themselves, every last one of them.

Widen your mind. Let's not try to shoehorn every "mysterious" event into the gloss of twentieth-century liberal ideas about political revolution and leftist insurgency. In Iraq, we are not fighting Ho Chi Minh; we are fighting modern-day Aztec priests who want to kill their victims for no reason other than to cut their hearts out and offer their bleeding, still beating hearts to Huitzilopochtli... so let us set our strategy accordingly.


{And finally, from PowerLine}I think we have, actually.
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Old 05-15-2005, 04:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yep.

They are the high priests of a murder cult, nothing more.

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Old 05-15-2005, 12:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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And that's exactly why we'll never negotiate an end to this. We have to go all the way into the bottom of the metaphorical cave, and kill everything in it.
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Old 05-15-2005, 14:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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And that's exactly why we'll never negotiate an end to this. We have to go all the way into the bottom of the metaphorical cave, and kill everything in it.
Yep.

I was thinking about this a few minutes ago, and comparing the Iraq ops by the Bad Guys now as opposed to the international ops by OBL previously. In my opinion, OBL clearly had/has a political goal - he wants to sit on the throne of Saudi Arabia. Now, in and of itself, that's a completely rational goal. And even though I deplore his methods of terror attacks on the West to weaken and isolate Saudi Arabia over time, I can continue to respect his end goal, politically.

Since OBL went underground and Zarqawi took center stage though, not only has the focus changed from international to regional, but the goal - as we both agree from the article referenced above - has changed as well. I am willing to bet that the Bali and Madrid bombings were remnants of the OBL school - complex ops designed to get OBL on the throne in Mecca, or wherever. But it seems as if the efforts of multiple militaries, paramilitaries, and police agencies around the world have done a fairly decent job of closing off that avenue (although of course 20 hotels could blow up tomorrow disproving me).

So if that's true, if the calm, collected, AK-carrying OBL has truly been driven to ground for now, we have the excitable, knife-wielding, head-sawing Zarqawi to deal with. I am reminded of that scene in "Dirty Harry" where Inspector Callahan is telling the mayor or the chief or some such character that no matter what they do, the Zodiac killer is going to keep killing people. They ask him "why" and Harry gets this somewhat pained look on his face and says "Because he likes it."

I wonder if Zarqawi just "likes it" when people die.

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Old 05-22-2005, 06:13 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I agree, I think Zarqawi is "punching above his weight". From what i understand, the belief in the intelligence community is that his group is composed of 500 people at the most. Although i am sure he is recruiting. Hence i think there are probably claims of responsibility for atrocities that probably weren't actually carried out by his group.

In that fashion he almost certainly does like it when people die. And if they could die in as bloody, gruesome and shocking manner as possible, then it gets him more advertising than his own resources can provide.

Its also possible the small size of the group precludes an overt poltical structure as the article would expect in an insurgency.

I am not sure that there is a direct operational link between Zarqawi and AQ. Certainly there is evidence that Zarqawi's group asked for AQ support in fermenting a Sunni and Shia conflict in Iraq, but there is also evidence that this was rebuffed by AQ.

T&J don't like anyone in Iraq and want to ensure that Iraq should not become a Greater Israel - hence T&J's hatred of the Kurds. That monotheistic Islam should root out the crusaders of polytheistic Christianity (the Trinity) hence the hatred of the US and so on.

The other thing is that "Tawhid and Jihad" go for shock and terror, but there are an estimate 50000 in the Iraqi "resistence" that are lower profile but more traditionally insurgent.
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Iraqi "resistence" that are lower profile but more traditionally insurgent.
After the election they became terrorists and criminals. They do not represent the people of Iraq.
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I suspect that isn't going to bother them.
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Me either, but it does put their fight in perspective...
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I am not sure that there is a direct operational link between Zarqawi and AQ. Certainly there is evidence that Zarqawi's group asked for AQ support in fermenting a Sunni and Shia conflict in Iraq, but there is also evidence that this was rebuffed by AQ.
Nope, they are totally wired together. AMZ swore fealty to ObL, and ObL named AMZ 'Emir of Iraq'.

Not too swift, as it turns out, because AMZ is a FOREIGNER, and the local up-and-coming terrorists felt they just got 'jumped over'.

But the bottom line is, they are working together.

Also, you're low on the AMZ organization's estimated strength. As to that impacting their political movement, there isn't one to speak of. They have a propaganda arm, but there really isn't any kind of idealogical, political or 'power' structure AT ALL.

Which tells us a great deal about their goals. They have no intention of RULING Iraq, and this whole thang has never been about that.

They're killers, not governors. Period.

As for the 'other' terrorists, one way to judge their success in the battle for the affections of the People is the size and frequency of work stoppages, demonstrations, even graffitti supporting themselves or against the government. There is a disctinct LACK of all of that. There is no depth to this 'movement'. We really CAN end this by killing the Bad Guys (as their numbers are finite and getting smaller everyday), but we have to get better at sealing the borders. Operations around Qaim last week are exactly for that purpose.

Other insurgencies in history had staying power and were dificult to defeat because they offered something better to the People, after the Final Victory Over Imperialism (or whatever). There was a political program that sold 'em on the great future that would come in with the commisars, and the their misery would go out with the Imperialists' Puppets. That isn't going to sell here, because the People just bet everything on US, and have utterly rejected THEM.

It has to do mainly with the WOMEN of Iraq, because their lives go to hell once again with the victory of Islamic Crazies, but may just get better with a modern orientation. And that drives how the WOMEN see the MEN in their lives: respected fighter for the progress of the country, or backward-ass lout that wants to re-enslave me for his own selfish purposes.

This war has a whole lot to do with WOMEN, control thereof. Guess which side they want to win, and will push the men towards?
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Perhaps i am out of date. I have certainly seen the loyalty stuff, but aside from posturing it doesn't necessarily mean coordinated attacks. The stuff i had seen said US intelligence hadn't found an operational link between Zarqawi and AQ. I am sure they would love to break bread together and curse the infidel, but i don't know that funds, planning and or facilites are actually being transferred.

If they are operationally linked then it is interesting that they are taking somewhat different styles. It looks to me like Zarqawi would rather take Bin Laden's "world wide" thrown and is using Iraq has his own platform.

There is evidence that AQ rebuffed Zarqawi's request for help in brewing the civil war. But i guess since AQ is on the run and Zarqawi is getting all the publicity, perhaps they both need the free publicity.

I have tried to find something regarding "Al qaeda in Iraq"'s numbers (under their various names) but can't find anything on the web. Other than a reference on the BBC site to 500 or so, but i know you don't like the Beeb.
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It has to do mainly with the WOMEN of Iraq, because their lives go to hell once again with the victory of Islamic Crazies, but may just get better with a modern orientation. And that drives how the WOMEN see the MEN in their lives: respected fighter for the progress of the country, or backward-ass lout that wants to re-enslave me for his own selfish purposes.

This war has a whole lot to do with WOMEN, control thereof. Guess which side they want to win, and will push the men towards?
OMG, I actually find myself agreeing with you 100%. OMG Even under Sadam the women of Iraq had far more autonomy than in surrounding countries, driving, having a job, not having to wear a burka etc, it's EXTREMELY unlikely they'd want to place themselves under a strongly Islamic regime. Thanks Bluesman, you've cheered me up immensely
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