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04-10-2008, 15:29 PM
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Didn't Roosevelt issue the order to kill Yamamoto in 1943? Some say that was an assasination mission.
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1. Declared war
2. Yamamoto was a uniformed member of the IJN
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04-10-2008, 18:35 PM
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he is also one of the few over there not calling for the partition of Iraq into three semi independent fiefdoms isn't he? he is no friend of ours but I think the horse we are backing is cozied up even closer to Iran than he is and w/o him they have no counterweight do they? It wouldn't be the first time we diecided an enemy had a useful realpolitik purpose. I don't think the Badr brigade is any band of American lovers. it kind of sucks our military has performed everything we asked of them but the political solution isn't even in sight let alone in focus 
The White House opposes the plan but has not issued an explicit veto threat. It says parts of the legislation would make the problem worse by depressing some home values, and that the measure inappropriately uses taxpayer money to bail out lenders saddled with foreclosed houses. OMG I AGREE WITH HIM He moves out of the thousand foot well of my disdain and is only 999 feet deep now  |
Really... I was only answering your question. I have no idea what your talking about here????
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04-10-2008, 19:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gunnut
Didn't Roosevelt issue the order to kill Yamamoto in 1943? Some say that was an assasination mission.
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Originally Posted by Albany Rifles
1. Declared war
2. Yamamoto was a uniformed member of the IJN
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Two very correct points(Albany). In addition, there was a specific act that makes it illegal for any member of our government or military to issue a order to kill a specifically named person (uniformed enemy or not). I cannot recall the name of or when it was enacted(google it?). I can tell you that as a former member of the military, my job involved knowledge of such a thing. It was one of the first things I was taught as a sniper. Now this is where it gets silly. Remember when we were hunting Sadaam and his boys? First apprehension orders where issued, no dead or alive here, orders where to apprehend only. Now if they resisted and were killed in the process, oh well, too bad. So you may ask, well what about those air strikes? Well its pretty much semantics here. The standard answer is that the target was strategic and whoever may have been killed in the strike is incidental. Once again, oh well. Now this could have changed since my day but in the 80s it was the case. |
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04-11-2008, 23:00 PM
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Petraeus Condemns Assassination of Sadr Aide
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General Petraeus told a small group of reporters at the Pentagon that the killing of Sadr advisor Riyadh al-Nouri potentially threatens weeks of calm in Najaf.
"The assassination in Najaf is obviously a cause for significant concern. I am sure that there are numerous calls for calm, for restraint in response. I know that there has been a curfew established already in Najaf. I am sure there will be pledges to bring to justice whoever it was that carried out this murderous action," he said.
Police say Nouri was killed when gunmen fired on his car near his home while returning from prayer services.
He was one of Sadr's closest aides. Nouri's sister is married to one of Sadr's brothers.
A spokesman for Sadr in Najaf said the cleric is calling on his supporters for calm, but is blaming what he called occupying forces and those working with them for the assassination.
General Petraeus denied U.S. forces were involved. "I have no idea what the basis of that would be. We do not have forces operating in Najaf. This is an act that we condemn as do all other Iraqi leaders and coalition leaders," he said.
Tension between Sadr's militia and Iraqi government forces recently exploded into violence when Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki ordered a crackdown on Shi'ite militias and armed gangs in the southern city of Basra last month.
Sadr's militia responded with attacks in Basra and Baghdad, showering the U.S.-controlled Green Zone with rockets and mortars.
American and Iraqi officials insist the Basra crackdown was not aimed at Sadr's political movement, but at criminals and Iranian-backed splinter groups.
General Petraeus called on all parties in Najaf to continue efforts to keep the holy city peaceful. "There has actually been very constructive dialog and engagement between the different parties in Najaf. Between the provincial governor and council members, the police chief, various security force leaders and of course it is in everyone's interest to maintain the peace in the holy city of Najaf," he said.
Clashes have continued in Basra and Baghdad, despite Sadr's order for his militiamen to stand down.
Sadr is believed to be in Iran and has not been seen in public for nearly a year.
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VOA News - Petraeus Condemns Assassination of Sadr Aide
Gates Says US Not Likely To Arrest Moqtada al-Sadr
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Secretary Gates was asked at a Pentagon news conference if he considers Moqtada al-Sadr to be an enemy of the United States. Gates said those who are prepared to work within the political process in Iraq are not enemies of the United States. When asked about the prospects of arresting Sadr if he returns to Iraq, Gates said he would be surprised if that happened.
"He is a significant political figure. And clearly if he is willing to work within ... we want him to work within the political process in Iraq. He has a large following," he said.
Secretary Gates said it is important that the cleric become a part of the political process if he is not already.
Sadr is believed to be in Iran, while elements of his Mahdi Army continue to fight Iraqi government troops supported by U.S. forces. He has not been since in public since May of last year.
Also at the news conference, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Michael Mullen, said Sadr is clearly a key player in Iraq, but his impact in the long term remains to be determined. "To me, Moqtada al-Sadr is somewhat of an enigma and it's pretty difficult to figure out exactly across all of the things that he is involved in where he is headed or what his plans are," he said.
Mullen said the ceasefire that Sadr ordered months ago has had a positive effect on reducing violence, but he has also shown he can have the opposite impact, such as during recent fighting in the southern Iraqi city of Basra.
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VOA News - Gates Says US Not Likely To Arrest Moqtada al-Sadr
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