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Old 04-01-2008, 11:25 AM   #76 (permalink)
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One last thought: If Oil had anything to do with the Iraqi war then somewhere out there there is somebody or some country sitting on an awful amount of oil. In theory as much oil as it has taken U.S. dollars and Allied moneys to liberate Iraq and help support its government to date.
Yes there would. Some food for thought:

STOP THE IRAQI OIL LAW
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:49 AM   #77 (permalink)
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If you know where it is (the oil that we were supposedly invading for and going to war for) then please do tell because we the American people have been experiencing much higher gas and oil prices then we have in the last 20 years...
My dear Dreadnaught, what a terrible conpiracy theorist you are. You should weave the facts into the unreality: "recent jumps in gas prices planned years ago to get Americans support for long stay in Iraq."
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:57 AM   #78 (permalink)
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My dear Dreadnaught, what a terrible conpiracy theorist you are. You should weave the facts into the unreality: "recent jumps in gas prices planned years ago to get Americans support for long stay in Iraq."
Thanks JAD, I was often wondering why it takes $80.00 to fill my tank these days. Silly me.
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Old 04-01-2008, 12:06 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Just to add my $0.02, obviously there was and is no evidence linking Saddam to 9/11.

But as to what led to the war, well, the tale is simple and tragic. Bush planned on invading Iraq before becoming president. There is documentary evidence to that effect:

Bush Planned Iraq 'Regime Change' Before Becoming President

Even post 9/11, it was generally accepted between London and Washington that the "War on Terror" was just a pretext, and that the intelligence was being retrofitted to the policy. There is more documentary evidence than you can shake a stick at:

The Downing Street Memo :: What is it?

A sad tale indeed. Sadder still is that neither Bush nor Blair will face prosecution.

Don't you think it's time to introduce yourself on the snappily named Introductions thread, or do you propose to keep bombarding us with slanted/heavily biased reports?
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Thanks JAD, I was often wondering why it takes $80.00 to fill my tank these days. Silly me.
And to take the conspiracy another step, high gas prices favor the republicans in November because if we leave Iraq like then dems want us to, we leave the oil behind which will make the price will go even higher. Bet Obama didn't think of that.
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And to take the conspiracy another step, high gas prices favor the republicans in November because if we leave Iraq like then dems want us to, we leave the oil behind which will make the price will go even higher. Bet Obama didn't think of that.
And to think Pennsylvania still pays a .30+ tax on gas to this day because of the Johnstown flood that happened over 60 years ago. Politics and stupidity go hand and hand. Got to love politics!
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Old 04-01-2008, 14:52 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Yes there would. Some food for thought:

STOP THE IRAQI OIL LAW

You don't live in Yellowknife, Canada..........do you? LMAO


Iraq, China to revive Saddam-era oil deal as Baghdad seeks investment
The Associated Press
Published: October 28, 2006
Iraq, China to revive Saddam-era oil deal as Baghdad seeks investment - iht,asia,China Iraq Oil - Asia - Pacific - International Herald Tribune


Russia offers trade help to Iraq
Sunday, 25 July, 2004, 17:55
BBC NEWS | Business | Russia offers trade help to Iraq

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Old 04-01-2008, 15:31 PM   #83 (permalink)
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And to think Pennsylvania still pays a .30+ tax on gas to this day because of the Johnstown flood that happened over 60 years ago. Politics and stupidity go hand and hand. Got to love politics!
If they don't sunset a temporary tax measure, it'll stay on the books forever. BTW, wasn't the flood more than 60 years ago, or was there another one later on?
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If they don't sunset a temporary tax measure, it'll stay on the books forever. BTW, wasn't the flood more than 60 years ago, or was there another one later on?
Yep, And the people are still getting it put over on them. I'd toss all of them, whipe the slate clean and hold new elections. They have done nothing but run people and businesses out of Pennsylvania with its outragous taxes.

And school taxes on the elderly are crippling to say the least.

I had a thought...Let the retired sell thier homes even know they dont want to and I couldnt blame them, and rent. That way they dont pay these outragous taxes and force the state to change the tax laws. Paying school taxes (averaging $3,000-$5,000) when you are retired and have no children in school is a bunch of horse ****.They paid their dues let them enjoy the rest of their days.

Meanwhile we cant get any good gun laws or even cell phone Bills passed.

One of the biggest states in the union and its ran by criminals who do nothing but vote themselves raises in the middle of the night, shoot down good proposed laws and tax the **** out of you. They should all be fired.

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Don't you think it's time to introduce yourself on the snappily named Introductions thread, or do you propose to keep bombarding us with slanted/heavily biased reports?
glyn,
I am fond of your this "description demands".

but you are right. it does not make sense when you do not know who you are talking with...
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And school taxes on the elderly are crippling to say the least.

I had a thought...Let the retired sell thier homes even know they dont want to and I couldnt blame them, and rent.
My in-laws moved to PA from MD when they retired, saying taxes for retirees were lower there. My father in law is a pretty shrewd dude and I never heard him complain; they live not far from Chambersburg.
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My in-laws moved to PA from MD when they retired, saying taxes for retirees were lower there. My father in law is a pretty shrewd dude and I never heard him complain; they live not far from Chambersburg.
I was thinking the same thing PA is ranked 20th in State/Fed tax burden. A 31.9% combined tax rate (Local,state and Fed)

My state, one with no State income tax is ranked 16th in State/Fed burden. A 33.6% combined tax rate (Local,state and Fed).
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I was thinking the same thing PA is ranked 20th in State/Fed tax burden. A 31.9% combined tax rate (Local,state and Fed)

My state, one with no State income tax is ranked 16th in State/Fed burden. A 33.6% combined tax rate (Local,state and Fed).
And it's warmer, too. My wife wants to know if blue hair is required down there?
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:25 AM   #89 (permalink)
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A lot of people I know still think Iraq had something to do with 9/11. Not because they read anything credible linking Saddam with it, they are just ignorant and have been thinking so since 2003. Sad. The same folk who think Obama is an undercover Muslim. I hope they don't vote and don't reproduce.
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I hear you saying they planned to offer up some big fish of theirs to buy up off. I hadn't that. That would be admitted culpability, wouldn't it?


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No, it would of been tribute paid to avoid invasion. We had the people calling for that invasion in 1998 in positions of power in 2001.
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