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Iraq awards contracts to Iran and China
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This may appear to be a coup of sorts wherein the US is being sidestepped and that the US losing its grip over the Iraqi govt. In actuality, it is a brilliant move by the American since the Iraqi govt cannot do anything without the US consent as it is the US which is bolstering the country in every way. Reconstruction of Iraq is the pressing necessity wherein if things come back to normal, the terrorists will have nothing to agitate the common people about. It should be noted that the project is in Shia held area. Therefore, neither Al Sadr nor any other Shia terrorist organisation will dare destroy something built by Iran as also they would not do so with the Chinese project either since China has been pro Iran in its 'disagreement' with the US. When this project fructifies, it will bring much succour to the beleaguered Iraqis, especially the Shia and seeing the same, the Sunnis would also be motivated so as to 'keep up with the Joneses" rather than suffering in isolation. A Brilliant initiative that will derail the terrorists in their game plan!
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Ray Reply
"In actuality, it is a brilliant move by the American since the Iraqi govt cannot do anything without the US consent as it is the US which is bolstering the country in every way."
Brigadier, You don't know that we've engineered this development involving the Iranians and Shanghai Heavy Industries. It might appear equally that the bid process was open and fair with either American companies unaware of the contract bids or aware but declining to bid. It's difficult to tell from the article what the anticipated ROI to the shareholders on these projects would be but we can assume nil. In all liklihood ROI will be calculated in political currency for both the Chinese and Iranians. The motives for both are clear enough. More power (heh, heh ) to em'.In either case, there's no reason to believe that this constitutes a net gain for the nation. That power will never move north on the grid is my guess. Nor will it be used to replace power which does. All the same basket anyway when networked and I'm not certain that Iraq even possesses a semi-functional national grid. Nope. This is strictly for the shias at the nation's expense. $1.1 Bil in contracts that continue to reflect the improbable climate for reconciliation. That's the way I see it. I don't care who builds it but I'm wondering when Fallujah-Ramadi will receive the same largesse?
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Ray Reply
Brigadier,
I know that, in general, gf0012aust knows a considerable amount about power grids and how they really function. Were he around, his commentary would be really useful. I've read comments about Iraq's dysfunctional power grid but how and to what extent, I honestly don't know. It seems though that centralized control doesn't exist any longer. Complexes designed to operate the nat'l grid were irrepairably looted in April 2003. If not, it's evident that they aren't yet functioning. Generators enter and exit the grid at the whim of operators with stories of sectarian and criminal control over sectors of the grid. There's no load-balancing worries though. That's for sure. Here's a story from August in the NYT- Iraq's Power Grid This issue alone would, I'd like to think, separate insurgents, sectarian militias, and criminals from the citizenry. These actions can only impact Iraqis. Coalition forces, as you'd expect, have considerable redundancy from base generators. As this article suggests, though-without a functioning grid any increase in power generation will likely be absorbed locally at the nation's expense. Logically, contracts would be issued to rebuild the nat'l power grid before generation. To my mind, these generation plants will become a sectarian asset without a nat'l grid with which to link and that hardly encourages broad-based reconciliation. I continue to see a formal partition looming on the horizon in a loosely federated Iraq. This seems another example of the forces leaning in that direction. |
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You maybe right, but with Iran and China constructing the projects, the Shia militants would not attack them because the sanctuary and support from Iran would terminate as a result. If the Chinese project was damaged, China would not be that smug as it is now over the issues of Iran and Iraq. Therefore, it is a coup for the US. My inference that Iraq cannot upset the US is because inspite of high decibel rhetoric over the Blackwater incident, the Iraqi govt has had to eat crow! |
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Ironduke Reply
Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking when I said that. I may have been projecting my desires a bit. De facto seems more accurate.
Nothing so smoothly delineated as Switzerland. At least, not for another eight centuries or so-just to be fair . Probably only after every other violent recourse has been mutually exhausted. My concern is that while we are achieving grass-roots security progress of an undeniable sort, in what direction I don't know. Less violent? Certainly. Sustainable? Who knows? I'm not certain that we haven't simply created a civic-minded vigilante. Willing to leave their neighbors be out of mutual exhaustion, but wary and distrustful nonetheless. Villages and neighborhoods patrolled by armed citizens beats a more aggressive posture of seeking vendetta, but only barely. Then there's the issue of displacement. A lot of Iraqis have been moved about because of this war. How that will affect local politics is hard to imagine. I thought that there'd be regional elections by the end of this year. It will be interesting to see how that would shake out, were it so. The sunnis haven't really mobilized for elections and it'll be exciting to watching that occur. It is, though, a start of something different and maybe better. I confess-Iraq isn't Switzerland and we're not watching HEIDI. |
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