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Old 06-16-2006, 21:44 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Have you found the chemical weapon in Iraq?
Been sleeping the last 3 years, or just spent too much time on pro-terrorist websites?
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even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
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Old 06-17-2006, 01:02 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Well, I see you lads have this well in hand
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Old 06-17-2006, 03:52 AM   #93 (permalink)
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While I agree with this point as well, Lemontree is on target with his comment, too, and it is material. Highsea summed it up well also by pointing out that the pic was from three years ago when our counterinsurgency tactic awareness wasn't so the best across the board - that's not to say that it was terrible, but it wasn't as strong as it is now.
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I know our CI learning curve is/was steep (buddy said his bro said that when he was in-theater early on the only way troopers were interacting with the locals was by screaming "GET THE F*CK DOWN!" an awful lot) and in one sense the image is the battle, but there is also a core of people who will believe as I stated no matter what. Still, point taken. Perfection is a goal worth pursuing even if we know we'll never get there: like a mathematical asymptote, the function describing the curve is useful even if the solution is impossible to reach.

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Have you found the chemical weapon in Iraq?
Absence of proof is not proof of absence and its a rather moot point now anyway isn't it? The troops are there now like it or lump it. There were other reasons to go into Iraq (humanitarian, strategic and economic) but this one is the most important to isolationists and self preservationists. There were suspicious WMD's found in Syria (now look at a map and see how close that is to Iraq) but the media skiped over that news article rather quickly, they were too busy counting dead U.S. soldiers and crying about the ban on showing pictures of flag draped coffins, mostly for anti-war propoganda purposes.

Then they decided that we would be safer for us if they disclosed pictures of torture inflicted by an isolated group of thugs at Abu garade before all the facts were even gathered and those responcible for the acts could be put on trial.

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Why people should trust you in this time?
Because the new Iraqi government trusts the U.S.?

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The confidence depends from you
Take the blinders off and look objectively at the facts instead of separating things into black and white.

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