Ray

Stable and democratic Iraq is but merely a Holy Grail.

It could also be like the dog trying to catch its tail.

Why the Soviets and the US have failed or will fail is that you just don't understand the Oriental psyche and the Islamic mindset.


Yes, a puppet govt can be installed with a whole lot of money funneled in. It will buy peace for a short while. Thereafter, it will start again. But then, the US would be out of Iraq and the blasted 'natives' could be blamed that they know nothing of governance and are a bunch of chumps!

As an example, just see whats up in Afghanistan. Karzai has been left holding the can with some token military presence so that it appears that all is well. All is NOT well there. Where are the billion dollars pledged to re-construct Afghanistan? Where has the Taliban been wiped from the face of the Earth? Where is that idiot Osama? These horrendous rats are regrouping. The US leads us to beleive that they are the ones behind the Iraqi terrorists attack. So, where is peace, democracy and stability?

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"Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

HAKUNA MATATA

PiggyWiggy

Ray. You seem to understand what I am trying to say here.

So are we agreeing on what is going on?

Lunatock

Do you know anything resembling **** about us to make these arrogant claims?

PiggyWiggy

when u make arrogant claims, i can make arrogant claims about you.

understood?

do not think high of yourselves.

Lunatock

No Comprende'. That was you starting it off. But be thankfull the Moderator who also has it in for Reds, and really hates arrogant behavior, hasn't been around much lately.

Ironduke

Heh, Snipe would be having a turkey shoot.

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Ray

Lunatock,

I think that WAB is doing a great job in promoting views all over the world that need not be the official US view. I personally am gratified that inspite of a 'discussion' with moderators, junior moderators and all in authority, they were most understanding especially Ironman even though what I wrote may not have been palatable to the US view.

I have understood the US Army rationale of shoot first and talk later because of WAB and Colonel. I now understand that Bush is not arrogant but being merely American. All because of the openess and democratic approach of WAB. In fact, WAB has done more for me to understand the Americans than any other forum or media.

I don't agree with Piggy Wiggy on many counts and yet I can't say I am not understanding another type of psyche. In fact, Ironman corrected me on the Koran. Therefore, I think a bit of tolerance to views other than one's own help in understanding how the world ticks. After all, we are all the sons of God.

Therefore, if Piggy Wiggy is arrogant, aren't we, including me, too?

Lunatock

Yes, a little tolerance is a good thing. There just isn't much for certain groups. Such as Communists. Not after seeing what the Soviet Union/Russian Federation has done to the Russians, and the locals living where ever they've gone.

One thing that I've little or no tolerance for is Genocide & human right abuses. Communists also tend to be narrow minded, if not stupid, in thier views.

And not that I'm denying I'm arrogant. Everyone is. Human nature, yada yada yada. But. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

How about yourself Piggly Wiggly? Feel free to come forth and tell us about any Middle Eastern Friends you have.

P.s. Another thing Americans tend to have little patience for. Immigrants that live here. But still piss on America & Americans every chance they get. That sure doesn't take you too far among everyone that likes this country.

Leader

Not only is that illogical, it's also unintelligible.

This is a DISCUSSION FORUM. If your not going to provide hard real proof, then get the hell out.

You need to get this into your small mind. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them stupid or ignorant.

Wrong

You could not have picked a worse time to ask that question. I was only just out with three of my Middle Eastern friends last night.

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PiggyWiggy

But are they from the middle east? or 3rd generation americans?

Listen, My "HARD" proof does not exist. Nobody in the government would make a document for that.

However, I believe in one of Bush's speeches, he did state, that more people will die, but terrorism will stop.

Some mumbo jumbo.

bigross86

I got middle eastern friends. Quite a few of them in fact. Why don't you direct some questions in my directions Piggy?

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Praxus

That might have to do with the fact that your in the middle east

bigross86

Shhh, it's a secret. Don't tell anybody!

:D :w00t :LOL :roll :dbanana :blush :clap: :8 :devil :ermm :cat :lol :smoke :wacko

Like my starting lineup?

Leader

They are from the Middle East. If you don't believe me, ask Ironman. He's talked to one of them.

An argument with out proof is crap.

You’re wrong unless you can go find the speech. Otherwise, you’re just lying because you have no evidence.

Ironduke

Nota1nota is from Lebanon.