Iraqi tribes in Anbar arrest 270 Arab and foreign al-Qaeda members!

**Shek** · 01-27-2006, 23:35 PM

Iraq doesn't look like quite the desired jihad destination anymore

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www.iraqthemodel.com

Friday, January 27, 2006

Iraqi tribes in Anbar arrest 270 Arab and foreign al-Qaeda members!
From Dar al-Hayat (Arabic):

The Anbar tribes’ campaign to rid the province of Zarqawi’s terror organization, al-Qaeda in Iraq is in its 2nd day and so far, 270 Arab and foreign intruders have been arrested.
[…]
Usama Jad’aan, the leader of Karabila tribes in Qaim told al-Hayat that “the operation will continue to eliminate terror elements according to a quality plan” and added “270 Arab and foreign intruders have been arrested, in addition to some Iraqis who were providing them shelter”.

Sheikh Jad’aan added “the operation is conducted in coordination between the tribes and the minister of defense Sa’doun al-Dulaimi and since we arrested hundreds of terrorists, I don’t expect the operation to take a lot of time”.

Posted by Omar @ 20:00

Bluesman · 01-28-2006, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by shek

Iraq doesn't look like quite the desired jihad destination anymore

Say it with me everybody:

"Tipping point."

We're winning. We will win.

dalem · 01-28-2006, 18:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluesman

Say it with me everybody:

"Tipping point."

We're winning. We will win.

It's always nice to be right, ain't it?

-dale

Bluesman · 01-29-2006, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dalem

It's always nice to be right, ain't it?

-dale

Preach on, Brother dalem. Hallelujah, and forever Amen.

smilingassassin · 01-29-2006, 06:12 AM

Its a quagmire!!!! For Al-Q that is....

leib10 · 01-29-2006, 14:14 PM

Too bad all the Iraqi communities aren't acting like this... but it's a step in the right direction and hopefully the trend will catch on.

Bluesman · 01-29-2006, 20:01 PM

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Originally Posted by leibstandarte10

Too bad all the Iraqi communities aren't acting like this... but it's a step in the right direction and hopefully the trend will catch on.

Dead right. But it has to start somewhere, and I knew all along that it would be absolutely key to get this trend started.

Once a terrorist can no longer terrorize, what is he? A LOSER, that's what. When the locals are no longer afraid to peach on these jerks, that's all they are - just jerks. They are analogous to the Mafia: if they can convince you that they can get to you and your family, you'll never testify. But if you don't think of them as all-powerful, and see them as just a bunch of guys that couldn't get through high school, they cease to have power over you and they go to prison while you go back to a cleaned-up neighborhood, that they no longer run.

And now...some Iraqis have figured that out.

**astralis** · 01-29-2006, 21:26 PM

for sunni nationalists and al-qaeda, it was always an alliance of convenience. but now that al-qaeda has shown that its interests extend beyond merely kicking the americans out, the former is not very happy about the latter!

al-qaeda certainly didn't help its case any by attacking the sunni nationalists at the first sign of tension. this is one of the areas where being a loosely organized (at best) organization really hurts- central planning is a real biatch, and more than one group miscalculated here and went for too much at once, from zarqawi on down.

**Lunatock** · 01-30-2006, 14:25 PM

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Originally Posted by astralis

for sunni nationalists and al-qaeda, it was always an alliance of convenience. but now that al-qaeda has shown that its interests extend beyond merely kicking the americans out, the former is not very happy about the latter!

al-qaeda certainly didn't help its case any by attacking the sunni nationalists at the first sign of tension. this is one of the areas where being a loosely organized (at best) organization really hurts- central planning is a real biatch, and more than one group miscalculated here and went for too much at once, from zarqawi on down.

Showing them "the true path" might of also had something to do with it. Islamists trying to place their own yoke over the locals is going badly for them in Iraq, is said to not be doing to well in Somalia either, and lead to a fued between those wanting an Islamic State covering the entire Caucascus region, and those simply wanting to follow their original way of life per republic inbetween invasions by Russia.

The latter has had two different battles for those interested in a Caucascus Islamic state. Chechnya and Dagestan, and who knows how many small republics in the region that the Islamists would have to subjegate one by one?

Dreadnought · 01-30-2006, 14:43 PM

Ahh nothing like progress from the people you are trying to help.
Outstanding!

**Parihaka** · 01-30-2006, 16:56 PM

Yeah nice

leib10 · 01-30-2006, 18:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluesman

Dead right. But it has to start somewhere, and I knew all along that it would be absolutely key to get this trend started.

Once a terrorist can no longer terrorize, what is he? A LOSER, that's what. When the locals are no longer afraid to peach on these jerks, that's all they are - just jerks. They are analogous to the Mafia: if they can convince you that they can get to you and your family, you'll never testify. But if you don't think of them as all-powerful, and see them as just a bunch of guys that couldn't get through high school, they cease to have power over you and they go to prison while you go back to a cleaned-up neighborhood, that they no longer run.

And now...some Iraqis have figured that out.

Yep. The more communities go anti-Al Qaeda, the less they will be able to hide and organize, which in turn leads to reduced effectiveness on their part. WE NEED THE IRAQI PEOPLE ON OUR SIDE IF WE ARE TO WIN THIS WAR. There's just no way we can do it without them.

**Shek** · 01-30-2006, 22:14 PM

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Originally Posted by leibstandarte10

Yep. The more communities go anti-Al Qaeda, the less they will be able to hide and organize, which in turn leads to reduced effectiveness on their part. WE NEED THE IRAQI PEOPLE ON OUR SIDE IF WE ARE TO WIN THIS WAR. There's just no way we can do it without them.

I wouldn't go so far as to try to position the Iraqi's as being on our side - just that they realize that AQ isn't on their side.

leib10 · 01-31-2006, 15:05 PM

When I say on our side, I mean that they have at least a basic degree of sympathy to our cause and are willing to help us at least a little bit.

Dreadnought · 01-31-2006, 15:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shek

I wouldn't go so far as to try to position the Iraqi's as being on our side - just that they realize that AQ isn't on their side.

A very smart analogy of a very finiky people

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