Imagery and propaganda

S2 · 12 Feb 10, 23:19

Nice find that should help all. There's descriptions to the right as you identify each character.

**Bigfella** · 13 Feb 10, 00:18

Originally Posted by tinymarae

That's Nathan Hale saying "I regret having only one life to give to the country"

How do I know ?

One nation under god

Move your mouse over the characters to see their description

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Interview with artist about his painting

Thanks TM, but I think this is one of those times where ignorance might just be bliss. I ask myself 'would knowing make me any happier'. I suspect not.

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**Bigfella** · 13 Feb 10, 00:24

Originally Posted by astralis

i like how with the possible exception of the soldier standing next to reagan and the guy with the book "The Five Thousand Year Leap", all the blacks are in the shadowy left background.

interesting book the guy has, by the way-- first time i've heard the argument that religious law and secular law are perfectly married in the US Constitution, which fits perfectly with what the propaganda above is trying to portray.

(by the way, notice how the academic faced with the devil/death is holding "The Origin of Species?"

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Ah yes, Glenn Beck's favourite book. This all starts to make sense. Wonder what Dredd Scott would have made of Skousen's views on slavery?

**Aussiegunner** · 13 Feb 10, 00:31

Originally Posted by xinhui

Note:

The red tie's job is to draws attention to Obama.

The position of his hands advocates confidence.

The position of Michelle and Malia Ann suggests 'love and care' as in the traditional role of the first lady.

Sasha's hand promotes trust.

Folks, this is a fine example of propaganda

Now all he needs to do is to learn to tie a proper Windsor knot and it will be perfect.

**Swift Sword** · 13 Feb 10, 01:14

Hello Gents,

Good stuff posted here by all.

Regarding the Major's original query and sample, I submit the following as in the same vein because the key to growing the cult is to make the personality stand out in the crowd:

**astralis** · 13 Feb 10, 04:44

tinymarae,

much thanks for the youtube link.

the best thing about it is that you can see the details more clearly: for instance, the papers at the judge's feet:

Marbury v Madison: first time the Supreme Court judged something unconstitutional, setting up judicial review/system of checks and balances

Martin v Hunter's Lessee: assertion of Supreme Court authority over local courts

Gibbons v. Ogden: assertion of Congress control over the Commerce Clause, overriding state laws

so it becomes clear that the painter is a raging states' rights guy...maybe he should have had the hallowed document as the Articles of Confederation, instead! i'm a bit surprised lincoln didn't get the boot to the right curb.

**Tarek Morgen** · 13 Feb 10, 04:53

Originally Posted by astralis

i like how with the possible exception of the soldier standing next to reagan and the guy with the book "The Five Thousand Year Leap", all the blacks are in the shadowy left background.

interesting book the guy has, by the way-- first time i've heard the argument that religious law and secular law are perfectly married in the US Constitution, which fits perfectly with what the propaganda above is trying to portray.

(by the way, notice how the academic faced with the devil/death is holding "The Origin of Species?"

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Did Skousen not argue that you can't call slavery evil as long as you follow the bibles rules regarding slavery?

**xinhui** · 13 Feb 10, 05:09

Originally Posted by S-2

Andy,

Powerful. The Lord's descended with a host of our forebearers and seems to be holding us accountable to the bill of rights. A judge has collapsed in shame. A man counts money. Others call the press room while one woman is ready to take the story. Some show hope. Others fear.

A little boy steps forward unafraid and reaches to the document as though to test its reality with a gentle poke of the finger.

We are lost souls it says.

you know what is even more impressive? I found this on a Chinese military website, believe me, the Chinese fanboys know a thing or two about propaganda.

**xinhui** · 13 Feb 10, 05:22

Originally Posted by astralis

also, is it just me or is the guy cowering in awe (right under the black guy with the Five Thousand Year Leap) a Chinese dude?

andy, is that you?

That is me. After I learned that "the source of American's greatness comes from as he sees Christ holding the constitution. I am a reformed man because of it.

S2 · 13 Feb 10, 05:37

Meant for the movie theatres. Note the triumphal music but also note commentators words and tone. Translation provided-

Footage appears to be exclusively II S.S. Panzer Korps. 2:24 mark shows Herman Hoth in his command vehicle.

**chanjyj** · 13 Feb 10, 06:43

Originally Posted by Mihais

Those behind Christ are all either historical figures(they're historical because they are dead

) or generic characters from the past-the trapper,the black lady servant,etc... The soldiers behind Christ are also generic figures from significant American wars,representing those who died in those wars,starting with the Revolutionary War to the WoT(the black guy).The Marine on the left is Gun Grape in his younger days.

Originally Posted by Parihaka

I'd just add the people on the left foreground (Christs right hand) are believing christians with their eyes turned toward Christ whereas those on the right have their back turned to both Christ and their forbears who are appealing to them to turn around. Great find Xinhui.

Thank you for the explanations guys.

I understand the significance of those on the left and right hand of Christ (for the foreground).
BUT I do not understand those in the background - are they separated into 'left' and 'right' as well? If so, I doesn't make sense cause I'm seeing JFK, Reagan, a generic army soldier and few other individuals there that I can't make head and tail of

**Kilo 2-3** · 13 Feb 10, 07:10

In regards to the "One Nation Under God" painting:

It's kinda funny how Franklin and Jefferson are in there.

Franklin was a deist and Jefferson was effectively, (but not openly) something of an atheist.

**Mihais** · 13 Feb 10, 08:02

Originally Posted by astralis

i like how with the possible exception of the soldier standing next to reagan and the guy with the book "The Five Thousand Year Leap", all the blacks are in the shadowy left background.

That made me curious,so I checked the numbers.I think they're represented well enough.If you look at the numbers on the left there is one out of 9(7 whites).That kinda fit the proportion.Those in the background,counting those from the modern times include Kennedy,Reagan,the astronaute and the pilot+the black soldier.1 in 5.And there are no bad black guys or any other minority,because as everybody knows,only whites are bad

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**Bigfella** · 13 Feb 10, 16:48

Originally Posted by Kilo 2-3

In regards to the "One Nation Under God" painting:

It's kinda funny how Franklin and Jefferson are in there.

Franklin was a deist and Jefferson was effectively, (but not openly) something of an atheist.

Careful Kilo, Skousen wasn't the only 'the Constitution was divinley inspired' nutjob out there. This one was a particularly nasty piece of work.

Rushdoony then pursued history – of the world, of the United States, and of the church. He famously maintained that Calvinistic Christianity provided the intellectual roots for the American Revolution and had thus always had an influential impact in American history. The American Revolution, according to Rushdoony, was a "conservative counterrevolution" to preserve American liberties from British usurpation and it owed nothing to the Enlightenment. He further argued that the United States Constitution was a secular document in appearance only; it didn't need to establish Christianity as an official religion since the states were already Christian establishments.[2]

Rousas John Rushdoony - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**xinhui** · 13 Feb 10, 20:40

Colbert's poster is uber-American, over-the-top and awesome
Colbert's poster is uber-American, over-the-top and awesome - Fourth-Place Medal - 2010 Olympics Blog - Yahoo! Sports

By Maggie Hendricks

Stephen Colbert made a mark on the 2010 Olympics well before the cauldron was lit. The Comedy Central talk show host's sponsorship of U.S. Speedskating, spat with Shani Davis and attempt at curling have all made headlines, but his affection for the Winter Olympics is clear.

Now he wants to make a literal mark on the Games by presenting his own official Olympics poster, available as a PDF from his website, where he's encouraging fans to show their support by printing it out and "plastering it all over Vancouver" (though Comedy Central reminds viewers to follow all local laws and ordinances).

Colbert unveiled the poster on Thursday's show while discussing the history of art in sports. The poster was designed by Shepherd Fairey, the same artist who made the iconic "Hope" poster for the Obama presidential campaign.

Colbert touted the poster's strengths:

"Flames, a heroic person, a low angle so it sort of thins out my face," Colbert said. A Twitter icon is also available for use throughout the Olympics.

Colbert's connection to the Olympics has been hilarious every step of the way. I can't wait to see what he does when "his team," the U.S. speedskaters, wins a medal.

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