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    I just finished reading "How to Break a Terrorist" by Matthew Alexander, http://www.amazon.com/How-Break-Terr.../dp/1416573151. It lines up well with the oped he wrote and the adapted book excerpt that had been published.

    What was interesting was that the successful interrogation that he performed on the key detainee (unknown at the time) that led to Zarqawi's demise (while using an ego up technique) was done after those who had only tried controlling and fear interrogation techniques had given up on the detainee and concluded that he was a nobody vis a vis Zarqawi. In fact, these interrogators looked down upon the author and his claim that rapport building was the most successful strategy.

    For me, it's a similar mindset to those leaders (definitely a minority, but they exist) who feel that the only way to train soldiers is to put them in their place through degrading treatment that relies upon physical punishment.

    I'd recommend this book for anyone that's interested in how the Zarqawi case was cracked and how the Army Interrogation School righted itself in the wake of moral transgression early on during the GWOT.
    "So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3

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    Interrogation-Looking Back To Look Ahead

    Found this NYT opinion today. Thought it was relevant-

    Try A Little Tenderness-NYT Opinion

    There's some interesting and, possibly, long-forgotten techniques both in interrogation and interviewing. A case can be made that a successful interrogation IS an interview.

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    Shek, S-2,

    That seems to agree with Mark Bowden's piece on the Atlantic. He interviewed an Israeli interrogator who did work when mental duress of terrorists was allowed in Israel, and the the Israeli stated that he consider using physical violence signifies failure on the part of the interrogator, and that his successes were almost always gained by mind tricks not physical force.
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    Stress Positions, Time disorientation, Sleep Deprevation, White Noise. You will soon spill the beans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaobam Armour View Post
    Stress Positions, Time disorientation, Sleep Deprevation, White Noise. You will soon spill the beans.
    What's the research backing this up?
    "So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shek View Post
    For me, it's a similar mindset to those leaders (definitely a minority, but they exist) who feel that the only way to train soldiers is to put them in their place through degrading treatment that relies upon physical punishment.
    That's always surprised me. Obviously the armed forces have special circumstances but I get such good results by challenging and praising combined with a team approach, I just can't see what managers who 'rule' by fear/intimidation ever think they're going to achieve...

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    if we are talking about criminal investigation the main interrogation method in Russia is "razvodka" (разводка), i.e. deceit + intimidation. if it doesn't work the most probable next step is beating. and i'have never heard about such practices as time disorientation, sleep deprevation, white noise and the same in Russia. but being arested and placed in a detention center one most probably will be stressed, disoriented and deprived of sleep due to harsh living conditons in Russian detention centers (to say the truth the living conditions in detention centers are mach more harsh than those in prisons and colonies for criminals).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaobam Armour View Post
    Stress Positions, Time disorientation, Sleep Deprevation, White Noise. You will soon spill the beans.
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    What's the research backing this up?
    It's a short term method, used usually as a training aid and selection in SF.

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    Shek,
    While this work may well be beyond the scope of your interest, The Spanish Inquisition, by Joseph Perez delves into many of the areas in which you have interest. The work is well sourced, and the research methodology is solid. It touches on topics such as the efficacy of physical coercion, vs. more moderate methods of information extraction. Also discussed are the moral hazard posed to both individuals and society where state sanctioned torture is condoned. Although the story is four-hundred years old, the conclusions are startling modern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaobam Armour View Post
    Stress Positions, Time disorientation, Sleep Deprevation, White Noise. You will soon spill the beans.
    I saw a special on this a long time ago, was pretty interesting.

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    At one level, interrogation is a solution looking for a problem.

    In my experience, if anybody puts a plan on my desk that involves relying on intelligence supplied by the other side, my first inclination is to fire the son of a bitch.
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    lemme tell you one time in 2004...

    after a shootout when our unit came under small arms fire at san felipe... we "unofficially" detained the girlfriend of one of the dead rebels. we found her over his body shouting in the local dialect that i didnt understand trying to drag him away. we turned her over to the army and to the CO.

    One of my friend's escorted her to our intelligence officer. He came back later with a smug look on his face. at first i thought they roughed her up pretty good but it turns out they "broke" her. my friend told me that she wasnt at all a dedicated red, but she was a devoted wife that came with her husband. to quote him: "tangina brod pagpasok niya dun medyo maangas pa...nagmumura pa. pero nung nilabas na namin grabe parang nakakita ng multo. nakatunga lang. [damnit man, she went in there defiant and cursing...she came out looking like she saw a freakin ghost! starin at nothingness...]

    we were right back on the trail of the bastards less than 24 hours later.

    you know what those bastards in intelligence used? they didnt even HAVE to touch her. they BROKE her. many of these terrorists are defiant and strong-willed only because they have a cause to believe in. I don't know what they did but if you take away the only thing these bastards hold on to, they're belief in a cause, you'll find them a lot more cooperative all of the sudden.

    Though im not at all sure at their methods, i have a feeling they probably showed her all the pictures of the mass graves of the communist purges or hell, they might have made her a watch an hour long anti-red video about how communism was a dying cause... damned if i ever know how, i know that anything that gets that kind of results in less than 24 hours is the best in my book.
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    Some Alternatives Provided By Our Russian Friends

    From the Times Online & SWJ-

    Russian Death Squads Pulverize Chechans- Times Online

    It's a deep, dark, and different world over there. I've got to laugh at what we put ourselves through at times by legal comparison- but in the end I'm glad we do.

    These guys can completely give a fcuk.
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