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    Well, Indian Intelligence usually uses narco-tests in conjunction with brain mapping and polygraph tests in interrogations. Though, none of these tests are admissible in court (although an Indian court had earlier carried out a sentence on the basis of a brain-mapping test, the DFS (Directorate of Forensic Science) has rejected the use of brain-mapping tests in the judicial system, due to the "error rate" not being known). But, I still think it helps in gathering valuable intel which helps in saving innocent lives. This is also probably one of the most effective techniques.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shek View Post
    My research to date is that building rapport has consistently been the best technique. Many people don't find moral arguments persuasive, i.e., torture is wrong. However, utilitarian arguments are often persuasive, i.e., torture doesn't work, but building rapport does.

    That being said, my survey of what's out there is incomplete, and so I was curious to see if there was other literature out there that may either confirm what I've seen to date or argue a counterposition.
    I always thought torture was used in part of a good cop bad cop sort of scenario.

    Apply a bit of torture (bad cop) but the real intelligence is gathered by the good cop, who feeds waters and offers medical care.

    No idea why I think this, I just thought that was the natural way of going about it.

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    I just heard on NPR this AM an interview with the interogator who questioned the folks tracking down Saddam. He has a book out on the subject. He was saying he had to negotiate with his subjects.

    Check it out.

    http://http://www.npr.org/templates/...oryId=98174979
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    Paladin Press may have had some books on this subject. They had such books as "How to dispose of bodies" as well as many books on home brew explosives and converting weapons to full auto.

    I think 9/11 put them out of business but I am sure some of their subject matter is stil floating around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurkon View Post
    Paladin Press may have had some books on this subject. They had such books as "How to dispose of bodies" as well as many books on home brew explosives and converting weapons to full auto.

    I think 9/11 put them out of business but I am sure some of their subject matter is stil floating around.
    Thanks for the suggestion, although given the other topics, it sounds like they are not a reputable publisher. I'm looking for serious studies and not fly by night treatsies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tronic View Post
    Well, Indian Intelligence usually uses narco-tests in conjunction with brain mapping and polygraph tests in interrogations. Though, none of these tests are admissible in court (although an Indian court had earlier carried out a sentence on the basis of a brain-mapping test, the DFS (Directorate of Forensic Science) has rejected the use of brain-mapping tests in the judicial system, due to the "error rate" not being known). But, I still think it helps in gathering valuable intel which helps in saving innocent lives. This is also probably one of the most effective techniques.
    At the moment they are using Sodium Penthanol on the Mumbai suspect

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    Shek,

    I know this is less intellectually rigorous than what you have in mind, but this article on the inefficacy of torture points to a couple of potential sources. Apparently, old World War II era manuals as well as the the CIA's 1967 edition are up for grabs. I doubt Delarius Rejali had clearance to classified materiel, so there must be public access to the sources he mentioned.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...121301303.html
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    Doesn't it depend on the desired information and its timeliness>

    Intelligence for immediate maneuver and force application requires extreme measures for quick extraction.

    If you need to know a complete life story, then only a "friend" can get this and violence is senseless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shek View Post
    Thanks for the suggestion, although given the other topics, it sounds like they are not a reputable publisher. I'm looking for serious studies and not fly by night treatsies.
    You would be surprised at some of the titles, and authors, they have. Mainstream publishers, for the most part, won't touch anything in this area, so there are a handful of specialty publishers that cater to this market. Paladin works on volume sales, so their books cost little to produce, they pay the authors poorly, and they carry a large backlist catalog.

    Some of their books, however, are written by true world experts in their given fields, people for whom it is more important to get the information down on paper and disseminated, than it is to have a big payday. The production values aren't always great, but some of the information can't be had anywhere else. I have friends who are authors in this broad field, and have edited a couple of their texts. You do have to wade through some garbage, but their catalog includes some real gems.

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    Hi
    I have heard that the Intergation method during the training of the SAS was the use of a hood over the head and the arms and hand tied behind whilst kneeling the cell ws in constant bright halagen lighting and sterio high pitched noise was loudspeakered around the recruit.
    This was also used in Northern Ireland to exract information from the IRA


    Personaly I would use the use of breaking the prisoners thumbs, very useful they cant use a gun afterward ....can you fire a gun with smashed thumbs??

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave lukins View Post
    At the moment they are using Sodium Penthanol on the Mumbai suspect
    Ah yes Dave

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    Sleep depravation and isolation(solitary confinement) combined, form a very potent combination and when a person is exposed to it for long, it has lead to permanent brain damage quite often

    Quote Originally Posted by dave lukins View Post
    At the moment they are using Sodium Penthanol on the Mumbai suspect
    Dave, dont mind me nitpicking, but he ain't a 'suspect'. He was caught red-handed, not to mention the video evidence.
    Its been two months now, I think he has already spilled all the beans (he holds).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kommunist View Post
    Sleep depravation and isolation(solitary confinement) combined, form a very potent combination and when a person is exposed to it for long, it has lead to permanent brain damage quite often



    Dave, dont mind me nitpicking, but he ain't a 'suspect'. He was caught red-handed, not to mention the video evidence.
    Its been two months now, I think he has already spilled all the beans (he holds).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kommunist View Post
    Dave, dont mind me nitpicking
    Not at all. In the UK he would still be classed as an suspect until guilt was proven, in Court.

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