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Old 11-15-2005, 01:55 AM   #91 (permalink)
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U.S., Indian controllers on scope

SALUA AIR STATION, India (AFPN) -- Looking at the radar, the four F-16 Fighting Falcons were clearly outnumbered as 12 opposition aircraft closed in to fire their weapons.

An E-3 Sentry airborne warning and control systems aircraft started relaying coordinates, preparing the Falcons for their impending battle.

However, this time something was different. The AWACS crew was not soaring high overhead in their Sentry.

Instead, they were on the ground using Indian air force radar and tracking systems as part of exercise Cope India 06.

U.S. controllers have been operating out of the Indian radar facility at Salua Air Station since Nov. 8, as they await the return of their aircraft, which returned to Kadena Air Base, Japan, for maintenance.

“The biggest challenge is getting use to the systems and overcoming the limitations,” said Tech. Sgt. Steven Harshman, a lead weapons director from Kadena’s 961st Airborne Air Control Squadron. “Fortunately most of us have qualified on some sort of ground control station before.”

As Cope India 06 neared the midpoint, fight scenarios intensified with several aircraft participating. Ratcheting up the tempo put added importance on the command and control operators.

“Of course it can be challenging when you have to switch to a system you are not use to using,” said Capt. Michael Thomas, a squadron senior director. “However, with help from our Indian air force counterparts, we have been able to seamlessly transition our operations, keeping our pilots informed and in the game.”

For both the U.S. and Indian controllers operating together has provided many learning opportunities.

“There is a lot of educating for both sides,” Captain Thomas said. “It is always a good opportunity to see how another country’s command and control operations is carried out.”

Though this exercise pits U.S. and Indian aircraft -- battling daily overhead -- the exercise ultimately is about crafting understandings and constructing a working relationship between the two air forces.

“Having Americans control out of here has been a very diplomatic process,” said Lt. Col. Peter Bastien, the squadron’s detachment commander. “The Indian Air Force has been very gracious in working with us so we can continue our work, keeping this exercise flowing.”
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Pentagon announces plans to lease reconnaissance planes to India

WASHINGTON (AFP) Nov 15, 2005
The Pentagon notified Congress Monday of plans to lease two P-3C reconnaissance aircraft to India.
"The two leased P-3c aircraft will replace two existing Indian Navy patrol aircraft, Soviet-built IL-38 May aircraft, which are quickly reaching the end of their fatigue and operational service life," the Defense Security and Cooperation Agency (DSCA) said.

The agency estimated the value of a logistics support contract for the aircraft at 133 million dollars.

Congress has 30 days from the time it is notified to block the contract.

The United States and India signed a military cooperation pact in June that opens the way for stepped-up weapons procurement as well as cooperation on missile defense.

The DSCA said India needed aircraft for land-based maritime patrol and reconnaissance against submarines and surface warfare ships as well as to protect its economic exclusion zone.

"Modernization will enhance the capabilities of the Indian Navy, support its regional influence and meet its legitimate self-defense needs," the agency said.
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India, Russia may sign IPR pact during Mukherjee's visit

Moscow, Nov. 15 (PTI) India and Russia are likely to sign an intellectual property rights (IPR) agreement paving the way for future cooperation in making advanced weapons platforms during the visit of Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee beginning here today.

Mukherjee, who is leading a 17-member high-level defence delegation which includes Defence Secretary Shekhar Dutt and Secretary, Defence Production, K P Singh, would co-chair the session of Indo-Russian Intergovernmental Commission (IRIGC) on military-technical cooperation with his Russian counterpart Sergei Ivanov.

The visit assumes significance with the Russians pressing India on a series of high-technology weapons projects which are on the anvil between the two countries. These include Russians' offer of joint investment in the production of the fifth-generation fighter aircraft and other projects.

According to Indian officials here, a major Russian concern regarding IPR will be addressed successfully during Mukherjee's three-day visit.

"It is hoped that an agreement in this connection can be signed during the visit," officials said.

Indian Ambassador Kanwal Sibal, said agreements reached at the IRIGC session would be important input to the Moscow summit of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, and Russian President Vladimir Putin after three weeks.
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India has never bought American planes for its air force because of frosty relations with Washington during the Cold War period when New Delhi was a close ally of the former Soviet Union.
Propaganda stuff. India was made to buy soviet migs b'coz of reluctance on US admin on selling jets to poor Indians. Just putting record straight.

Now that we have ability to pay top dollar, US Cos are lining up for every contract.
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Propaganda stuff. India was made to buy soviet migs b'coz of reluctance on US admin on selling jets to poor Indians. Just putting record straight.

Now that we have ability to pay top dollar, US Cos are lining up for every contract.
hey indian there are points to mention that are as follow :-
1. USAF want the indian markets, to buy thier F15/16 C-s instead of buying
Russian aircrafts.
2. They also want to sell those stuffs to Indians, so that we may be thier
permanent customer.
3. USA also know the results of SU-30/32MKI which is more advanced than the
F-15/16-s.
4. And they also came to know that the Russian Flankers are more cheaper than
F-15/16-s and the USA would loose many of it's customer's, and thier industries
of making F-15/16-s would come to an end.
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hey indian there are points to mention that are as follow :-
1. USAF want the indian markets, to buy thier F15/16 C-s instead of buying
Russian aircrafts.
2. They also want to sell those stuffs to Indians, so that we may be thier
permanent customer.
3. USA also know the results of SU-30/32MKI which is more advanced than the
F-15/16-s.
4. And they also came to know that the Russian Flankers are more cheaper than
F-15/16-s and the USA would loose many of it's customer's, and thier industries
of making F-15/16-s would come to an end.
Grow up.

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hey indian there are points to mention that are as follow :-
1. USAF want the indian markets, to buy thier F15/16 C-s instead of buying
Russian aircrafts.
Well LM being etc want india to purchase their products.And so does india want it..OR else we wouldnt have been considering their products.. Wether the expectations of both sides match is a different matter.
where did USAF come into all this. Its either about US govt and these companies or indian govt and IAF, HAL etc. definitely not USAF. Please recheck what u type.
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every company wants long term customers as u gain more from them..and of course americans are the leaders in business tactics.. no doubt about it... we indians need to learn a lot from them..
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3. USA also know the results of SU-30/32MKI which is more advanced than the
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lets look at a few things here .
1. theres nothing called SU32MKI. theres only SU30MKI.

2. and most imp .. we have started inducting MKI's and while americans have started phasing out their F15s/16s. what are u trying to prove with this statement then.
3. there are versions of F15 in US service ( the AESA ones) that can shoot down MKI with great ease. u need a recheck on your facts.
4. its always better to ask questions than to make pass on your decisions in a forum when u are a new joineee as it at times doesnt match with the general opinion( which is most difficult to tackle when u are new.) . So better be more inquisitive than go about declaring your decisions/views.
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4. And they also came to know that the Russian Flankers are more cheaper than
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of making F-15/16-s would come to an end.
And why do u think so.
Yes Flankers are sold at 50 mn a peice today. and that too with a level of technology nowhere near the level at which F15's and F16s are sold. Currently sold F15 version and F16 versions contain AESA radars. and u shud read about how good these planes are .. ( of course technological edge comes with a price .. and so thes are a bit costlier than SU30... but definitely worth it. ).
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Indo-Russian defence talks begin, Pranab arrives in Moscow

Moscow: Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee on Tuesday began his three-day visit to Russia, during which he will hold talks to review bilateral military cooperation and identify new areas of partnership such as joint ventures to manufacture futuristic weapon systems.

Mukherjee was warmly welcomed upon arrival at the airport by the head of Russia's Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation with Foreign Countries Mikhail Dmitriyev.

Indian Ambassador to Russia Kanwal Sibal and top Russian Defence Ministry brass were also present to receive Mukherjee.

Mukherjee is scheduled to meet his Russian host Sergei Ivanov, who was promoted to the rank of deputy prime minister by President Vladimir Putin.

Mukherjee and Ivanov will co-chair the two-day session of Indo-Russian Inter- Governmental Commission on Military-Technical Cooperation to review the ongoing defence cooperation and identify the new areas of interaction including the joint designing, manufacturing and marketing of futuristic weapon systems.

Russian officials say that promotion of Defence Minister Sergei Ivanov would further boost bilateral cooperation and help in promptly resolving the vexed issue of product support and supply of spares to India, as in his new capacity he would also look after Russia's entire military-industrial complex and defence Research & Development.

The defence minister will also call on President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday to finalise the defence agenda of the Indo-Russian summit in Moscow during Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's Russia visit in December.
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Russia to remain India's 'topmost' defence partner: Pranab

Maintaining that Russia will remain India's 'topmost' defence partner in the years to come, Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee today said military deals worth USD 9 billion are currently underway with Moscow.

"I want to assure you that Russia has been and will remain India's largest defence partner in the years to come," Mukherjee said inaugurating the 5th session of the Indo-Russian Inter-Governmental Commission on Military Technical Cooperation (IRIGC-MTC) here.

"The work is currently underway on execution of military contracts worth 9 billion dollars, thus consolidating Russia as India's topmost partner in the military-technical cooperation," he said.

IRIGC-MTC, co-chaired by the defence ministers of the two countries, is steering body for the implementation of long-term USD 20 billion defence cooperation programme till 2010, which includes over 200 projects involving the supply and development of military hardware and weapons platforms for all the three services of the Indian armed forces.

According to the Russian Defence Ministry, contracts worth USD 10 billion are to be executed within next four years including the delivery of Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier, deck-based MiG-29K fighters and Kamov helicopters.
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Pentagon notifies US Congress on military sales to India

The Pentagon has notified US Congress about a possible lease to India of two P-3C aircraft along with equipment and services as part of a proposed military sale worth US$ 133 millions to strengthen the US-India strategic partnership.

"The proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the US by helping to improve the security of an important ally and to strengthen US -India strategic partnership which continues to be an important force for political stability, peace and economic progress in South Asia," the Defence Department has said yesterday.

The two leased PC-3 aircrat will replace two existing Indian Navy aircraft-- the Soviet built IL38 May-- that are fast reaching the end of their "faituge", the Pentagon told Congress, adding India has to replace these fixed wing aircrafts with an airborne operational capability.

"India is capable of absorbing and maintaining these additional aircrafts in its inventory," the Pentagon has told Congress.

India had requested a possible sale of logistics support for two P-3C that would include training devices support and test equipment, engineering and technical services, spare and repair parts, personnel training and publications.

The notification by the Pentagon to Congress is required by law and does not mean that that the sale has been finalised.

Congress has been assured that this proposed sale of equipment and support "will not affect" the basic military balance in South Asia.

The principal contractors of the proposed deal will be Lockheed Martin, the Lockheed Martin Aircraft Centre and Logistics Support International.

"Implementation of this proposed sale will require technical assistance prior to the delivery of the first aircraft and continued involvement by US and contractor representatives to India for three years," the Defence Department has told Capitol Hill.

"There will be no adverse impact on U.S. Defence readiness as a result of this sale," it added.
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