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Old 10-10-2005, 13:21 PM   #31 (permalink)
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It will be.Soon.
And the Chinese commies wont be able to do shyt about it.
I think Americans would be the bigger issue here.
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Old 10-10-2005, 13:28 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I think Americans would be the bigger issue here.
Apparently Samudra does not know this. You can also add Japan. Don't forget Japan tried to enter the ocean during WW2.
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Old 10-10-2005, 13:31 PM   #33 (permalink)
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The Americans ? The Japanese ?
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Old 10-10-2005, 16:02 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I think Americans would be the bigger issue here.
And IN is not against USN. They are working in tendem to eliminate the threats.

JMSDF cannot project force in Indian Ocean, it has too many political hinderances for that, not to mention that India and Japan are already working closely along with Singapore to patrol the areas dearer to China/PLAN.

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Old 10-10-2005, 16:26 PM   #35 (permalink)
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These days, a warm bed is alot more appealing than a prize buck.

Still, it's 2 days away from wife and #1 daughter.
How very true for most.
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Old 10-10-2005, 16:32 PM   #36 (permalink)
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My hunting translate to 2 days away from wife and kid. Doesn't mean I'm going to get anything.
Colonel, be careful out there, I know you would be laughing at me for saying this . I was in WI when there was this reckless shooting by a hunter coz of some stupid racial slurs.
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Old 10-10-2005, 16:33 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Don't forget there are a lot of Hui people who also belive in muslim. There are very respectable, peaceful people.
You are missing the point, maybe by design.

In a Communist country which has no democracy but is an autocratic regime, it is very easy to implement the writ of the government.

In a democracy, you cannot. The will of the people is important or else the party will be shown the door, come the elections.

In the interim, the people can go to court and stall the whole issue and the government will be left twiddling their thumbs.

Of course Moslems are good people. However, the Uighurs and Moslems of Sinkiang have been kept on a tight leash since there is no courts (and even if there are, they will obey the order of the commie party) and there is no appeal.

Take the case of the Tiananmen Square incident or that spiritual movement (I have forgotten the name) which does exercises and breathing control. They were sorted out even before one could say "Mao Tse Tung".
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Old 10-10-2005, 16:54 PM   #38 (permalink)
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You are missing the point, maybe by design.

In a Communist country which has no democracy but is an autocratic regime, it is very easy to implement the writ of the government.

In a democracy, you cannot. The will of the people is important or else the party will be shown the door, come the elections.

In the interim, the people can go to court and stall the whole issue and the government will be left twiddling their thumbs.

Of course Moslems are good people. However, the Uighurs and Moslems of Sinkiang have been kept on a tight leash since there is no courts (and even if there are, they will obey the order of the commie party) and there is no appeal.

Take the case of the Tiananmen Square incident or that spiritual movement (I have forgotten the name) which does exercises and breathing control. They were sorted out even before one could say "Mao Tse Tung".

Even in Xinjiang, We make it very clear, Muslims are muslims and seperatists are seperatists. They are very different. We don't use the religion to judge people. There are so many seperatists in Taiwan, but most of Taiwanese are Han Chinese.

I was one of Tainanmen square students. Don't argue that with me. I know more than you.
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Old 10-10-2005, 16:57 PM   #39 (permalink)
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And IN is not against USN. They are working in tendem to eliminate the threats.

JMSDF cannot project force in Indian Ocean, it has too many political hinderances for that, not to mention that India and Japan are already working closely along with Singapore to patrol the areas dearer to China/PLAN.


So, that's because IN are against China. It is not a China's issue now. You need change that mind (of course you can keep that). Indian ocean is an international ocean, Pakistan and Bangledesh are independent countries.
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I was one of Tainanmen square students. Don't argue that with me. I know more than you.
And nothing happened to you?

Must have been an informer within the ranks and so you escaped or were you sent to plough the field to reform and regain your loyalty to the Supreme Leader Mao Tse Tung's folks?

Let's hear from you the story of the incident.
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Indian Ocean and other Oceans are international Oceans but movement has to be with the US Navy's say so.

Sad, but that is God's own truth.

Ah, but you don't believe in God; only Mao!
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Old 10-10-2005, 17:08 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Even in Xinjiang, We make it very clear, Muslims are muslims and seperatists are seperatists. They are very different. We don't use the religion to judge people. There are so many seperatists in Taiwan, but most of Taiwanese are Han Chinese.

In India also we don't make it clear (this is a democracy and we can't strut about like storm troopers) because we know that a Moslem is a Moslem and a terrorist is a terrorist.

We do not use pious platitudes to call terrorists by what they are.

What's wrong with being Han Chinese in Taiwan?

I ahve many Indian Chinese friends too. However, I dislike Communists since they are hypocrites. Be they Chinese or be they Indian.

Doyou like Chinese food? I love it.
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And nothing happened to you?

Must have been an informer within the ranks and so you escaped or were you sent to plough the field to reform and regain your loyalty to the Supreme Leader Mao Tse Tung's folks?

Let's hear from you the story of the incident.

You never know Mao's status in most of CHinese minds. Even in 1989, Students used Mao to attack the corruptions in China.

Mao is still a great man even he had mistakes. After the longtime reforms, today more and more people realized the Mao's greatness. Today's China is totally based on the works of Mao's generation from agriculture, industry and scientific research.

About the Tiananmen Squre incident, Deng Xiaoping said everything would be judged by people in 20 years. 16 years passed, more and more Chinese don't support that movement politically. Even in US, who still gathering for that except a few dissidents in US?

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Old 10-10-2005, 17:17 PM   #44 (permalink)
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In India also we don't make it clear (this is a democracy and we can't strut about like storm troopers) because we know that a Moslem is a Moslem and a terrorist is a terrorist.

We do not use pious platitudes to call terrorists by what they are.

What's wrong with being Han Chinese in Taiwan?

I ahve many Indian Chinese friends too. However, I dislike Communists since they are hypocrites. Be they Chinese or be they Indian.

Doyou like Chinese food? I love it.
You are correct. Who attacked Muslims as a whole in the thread?

I just want to tell you that Muslim is a religion that is simliar to other religions. Who believe in it is just you and me. Every religion has extremists.
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So, that's because IN are against China. It is not a China's issue now. You need change that mind (of course you can keep that).
I dont trust China, period.
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Indian ocean is an international ocean, Pakistan and Bangledesh are independent countries.
All the oceans are international, may be can you explain why Chinese ships/submarines never sail in to Atlantic or Pacific?? Pak or BD may be independent countries, but they dont have a navy to ascertain their claim of Indian Ocean.

Indian Ocean indeed is India's Ocean, if South China Sea belongs to China.
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