Israel to enhance range of Indian SLBM Sagarika to 2500 km - Page 4

**Officer of Engineers** · 03-05-2005, 14:26 PM

And the fear was certainly real

From Transcript 806: Six Days of War

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Michael Oren: The Syrians who played such a prominent role in precipitating this war cleverly stay out of it. The rumor in the Arab world--the conventional wisdom in the Arab world is that the Syrians were willing to fight to the last Egyptian. And it's true. They stayed out of this war but they were shelling thousands of shells onto Israeli settlements. The Israeli government voted not to attack Syria. This is an interesting episode.

Peter Robinson: The Cabinet votes not to attack?

Michael Oren: They're afraid of Soviet intervention. The Soviets were so closely allied with the Syrians, they were afraid if Israel struck at Syria then the Soviets would intervene and destroy Israel. Many of the Israeli leaders in 1967 had grown up in Russia. They remembered the Cossacks and they were afraid of their--there's the nerd part. Okay.

lulldapull · 03-05-2005, 15:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bull

Containing supplies....what abt china supplying advaned weapons,they acquiring weapons from france,sweden india is not going to stop that.

China doesnt take pak side..what that???Vocally yes but hardware will be supplied as far as china is concerned they need pak to distract india and india is playing into their hands

Terrorism i just hope it ends!!! frankly yes but i am sure this is not the way,extending a hands hake and then getting stabbed in that same hand.
How many times do we repeat it,and howmany times wud we indians be humilitaed like this by this neighbour of ours.

Araaay Mera bacha.......Smooooooooch! Chul aaja tujhay main ass kreem khilaata hoon!

Boy I better come on down for some soft consolation for my Indian buddy!

Bull man! I promise you that we wont stab you again......at least while you are not lookin! Thats my promise!

lulldapull · 03-05-2005, 15:33 PM

OOE that was some article! Thanks for sharing

Ray · 03-05-2005, 15:55 PM

Many a slip between cup and lip.

lulldapull · 03-05-2005, 15:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray

Many a slip between cup and lip.

??

Ray · 03-05-2005, 16:00 PM

Lull,

The terrorism aspect is no big deal.

There is always the possibility of India doing a cross border sweep at the camps.

Further, there are so many hassles in Pakistan - the Baluchis, the Pathans, the Sindhis and the good olf Shias up in Northern Territories. Maybe all the goody two shoes of our Indian politicians may end.

Thereafter, all it has to be said is that we are only given them moral support!

No nuclear conflageration. All nice and peaceful

**ZFBoxcar** · 03-05-2005, 17:11 PM

Anyone who does not attempt to avert an unnessary war with the Soviet Union is proud to the point of stupidity. Any country smaller than New Jersey would have to be phychotic to try to fight the USSR when their sovreignty is not threatend.

ajaybhutani · 03-05-2005, 17:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bull

Containing supplies....what abt china supplying advaned weapons,they acquiring weapons from france,sweden india is not going to stop that.

Namely??Is it somethin that can give them some edge or a difficulty for india to counter ?

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China doesnt take pak side..what that???Vocally yes but hardware will be supplied as far as china is concerned they need pak to distract india and india is playing into their hands

Diplomatically paksitan has lost a big support. We can see the effect in the form of pakistan coming on the table for talks.

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Terrorism i just hope it ends!!! frankly yes but i am sure this is not the way,extending a hands hake and then getting stabbed in that same hand.
How many times do we repeat it,and howmany times wud we indians be humilitaed like this by this neighbour of ours.

Well "jab chooha bahut shor machata hai pareshaan karta hai tab sher ko zaroorat nahin hotee uthne ki bas nind mein panja maar key hata sakte hain.

And about terrorism Well its already considerably reduced and as more money is invested , dams are build( which will clearly give the pak lifeline in the indian hands ) things will be back to normal. The infiltration levels are quite low now after the fencing of the LOC. And with latest gadgets being procured things things sound good. After all we controlled the situation in punjab . So why not kashmir.

**Officer of Engineers** · 03-05-2005, 17:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ZFBoxcar

Anyone who does not attempt to avert an unnessary war with the Soviet Union is proud to the point of stupidity. Any country smaller than New Jersey would have to be phychotic to try to fight the USSR when their sovreignty is not threatend.

And it was a very wise decision but the point remains that the Israelis lacked the capability and, more importantly, the confidence to take on the Soviet juggernaut. It is extremely incorrect to compare the Israelis to those armies that not only have the capability but also the confidence in facing the Soviets.

ajaybhutani · 03-05-2005, 17:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lulldapull

Araaay Mera bacha.......Smooooooooch! Chul aaja tujhay main ass kreem khilaata hoon!

Boy I better come on down for some soft consolation for my Indian buddy!

Bull man! I promise you that we wont stab you again......at least while you are not lookin! Thats my promise!

well u cant even dare to attack from the front .Its in the genes to attack from the back.

bull · 03-06-2005, 01:21 AM

Well ajay i do agree the acticity of terrorists have come down quite a bit,but doesnt this happen during all winters.The coming summer will be a clear test of the effectiveness of LOC fencing and using gadgets like thermal imaging etc etc.

keshto patel · 03-06-2005, 18:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lulldapull

Nothings working Ajay!

China still sells about $2 billion per year worth of hardware to pakistan.

What a hyperbole!
China 's annual arms export is below 600 million.

2003 was 400 million.

http://hdr.undp.org/statistics/data/...c_213_1_1.html

bull · 03-08-2005, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by keshto patel

What a hyperbole!
China 's annual arms export is below 600 million.

2003 was 400 million.

http://hdr.undp.org/statistics/data/...c_213_1_1.html

thats too much of a difference!!!!

Ray · 03-09-2005, 00:19 AM

Don't worry Bull, India will still 'float like a butterfly, sting like a bee'!

bull · 03-09-2005, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray

Don't worry Bull, India will still 'float like a butterfly, sting like a bee'!

Hee not worried...but just trying to convince that sometimes doing the wrong puts things right.

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