IAF purchasing more and more.

ajaybhutani · 02-11-2005, 07:54 AM

1. Deal to be signed for 2 batches of 20 each of LCA by IAF. (at the cost of 22.8M$ each).
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...40,curpg-2.cms
2. Tender for !26 aircrafts from Mig29M2 .M2k-V ,F16,Gripen.
3. MKI's in production queue.
4. Brahmos version for MKI to be tested soon.
5. Proposal for increasing defence budget by 40% .
India surely is calling for a complete ramp up of its forces.

sam0001 · 02-12-2005, 01:09 AM

The actual increase in defence budget is only about 6-7%. 40% does not include the cost of inflation and rupee strengthening vis-a-vis dollar.

Hawk_eye · 02-12-2005, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sam0001

The actual increase in defence budget is only about 6-7%. 40% does not include the cost of inflation and rupee strengthening vis-a-vis dollar.

Hey, if you can afford it, why not! Looks like India has its cake and can eat it at the same time, this is the product of years of hard work and determiniation! But what effect will it have to regional security? And will all this equipment put a burden on logistics or resources?

sam0001 · 02-12-2005, 02:51 AM

India's defence budget is growing propotionally with GDP. By 2020, you will see Indian defence budget close to $80-100 billion atleast.

bull · 02-12-2005, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sam0001

India's defence budget is growing propotionally with GDP. By 2020, you will see Indian defence budget close to $80-100 billion atleast.

LCa induction is good news ..afterall it was along wait for the indians...a militray exp growing prop is OK..its healthy atleast.

ajaybhutani · 02-14-2005, 01:36 AM

there are even reports of developement of a astripped down version of LCA with increased speed and range to be used as fighter trainer .The work will begin after the LCA project completes.
A missile defence system using Prithvi with Green pine radars is also about to start.

bull · 02-14-2005, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ajaybhutani

there are even reports of developement of a astripped down version of LCA with increased speed and range to be used as fighter trainer .The work will begin after the LCA project completes.
A missile defence system using Prithvi with Green pine radars is also about to start.

r u speaking abt the CAT which is there on display in aeroindia???

ajaybhutani · 02-14-2005, 02:17 AM

Well no.
Look at this

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India to develop fighter trainer:

[India News]: Bangalore, Feb 11 : The Indian defence research establishment has begun a concept study to design and develop a lead-in fighter trainer, which will be a trimmed version of the indigenously built Light Combat Aircraft (LCA).

M Natarajan, scientific advisor to the defence minister, told reporters Friday at the Aero India show that the fighter-class aircraft project would be taken up by the defence R and D establishments after completing the LCA project.

"We are working on a lead-in jet trainer that will be a trimmed and much smarter version of the LCA, christened Tejas. It will have a faster and longer range than the LCA, which has a range of 800km.

"The programme will be a natural extension of the aerospace technologies being developed for various projects such as the naval variant of the LCA and the multi-role medium combat aircraft (MCA)," Natarajan said.

He, however, clarified the proposed lead-in project was in no way connected with the twin-engine Combat Attack Trainer (CAT) project of the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) for the Indian Air Force (IAF).

HAL, the public sector defence behemoth, has recently submitted a proposal to the IAF for taking up the CAT project so that the upgraded version of the Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) could replace the British Hawks.

The Bangalore-based Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) of the Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) is the lead agency of the multi-role supersonic fighter aircraft (Tejas) that will be inducted into the IAF fleet from 2008.

"The flying display of the three prototypes of the LCA at the current aero show daily has drawn the attention of participating countries. They reckon that India has in place all the technologies and capabilities to indigenously build the most advanced fighter aircraft and trainer jets," said Natarajan, who is also the director-general of the DRDO.

http://news.newkerala.com/india-news...lnews&id=70910

ajaybhutani · 02-14-2005, 02:19 AM

Anohter news

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India Has Plans for New Jet, Long-Range UAV
By JAY SHANKAR, AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE, BANGALORE, India

India is planning to develop a new jet fighter and a long-range version of an unmanned aircraft, defense officials said Feb 11.

The “Lead-in Jet Fighter” is at the drawing board stage and would be a natural progression from India’s existing homegrown Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), said N. Natarajan, scientific advisor to the defense minister.

“The technologies and capabilities which the Aeronautical Development Agency has acquired from the Light Combat Aircraft can been put to use in the new jet fighter,” he said. “The jet will have dual roles of a trainer and fighter.”

During the making of the LCA, engineering, design and computer aided manufacturing capabilities had been discovered that could be integrated and used in the manufacture of a new aircraft, Natarajan said.

“The natural possibility is a Lead-in Jet Fighter,” he told a media conference held at a five-day air show in Bangalore, scheduled to end Feb. 13.

The Indian air force has placed an order with the state-run aircraft maker Hindustan Aeronautics Limited for 40 LCA at a cost of about $900 million. The first is due to be delivered to the air force in 2008.

The manufacture of the LCA, fitted with a General Electric engine, had to face a number of hurdles after the U.S. slapped sanctions on India following the 1998 nuclear tests. Those sanctions were lifted in 2001.

D. Banerjee, chief controller of the Defence Research and Development Organisation, said India was also working on a long-range unmanned aerial vehicle program after successfully developing Nishant, a pilotless vehicle.

“The process of exploring tie-ups with private companies and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited and other companies is currently on,” Banerjee said.

He said Nishant had met all the requirements of the Indian military which ordered about eight aircraft.

“In the future there is a possibility of another order from the air force,” he said.

Nishant, the remotely piloted vehicle for battlefield surveillance and reconnaissance, is used for target acquisition, target designation, damage assessment and electronic surveillance.

It has a range of 100 kilometers (62 miles) and weighs 360 kilograms (792 pounds).

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=653884&C=airwar

bull · 02-14-2005, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ajaybhutani

Anohter news

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=653884&C=airwar

Ok thats good news!!!

ajaybhutani · 02-14-2005, 03:09 AM

Good point is the cost. 100crore rs for a peice (i.e. 22.8M$ )for the first batch of 40. The cost thus shud come down considerably to maybe sub 20M$ levels in later orders.

bull · 02-14-2005, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ajaybhutani

Good point is the cost. 100crore rs for a peice (i.e. 22.8M$ )for the first batch of 40. The cost thus shud come down considerably to maybe sub 20M$ levels in later orders.

apart from the stated FCs f-18 of boeing is also on offer to india.How does f-18 compare with f-16?Does f-18 qualify for the"20 tonn"Fc that indian AF is looking for.

ajaybhutani · 02-14-2005, 10:06 AM

Without even looking at the specifications the cost becomes a big issue. As the contract signed between US Govt and Boeing for F18 superhornet delivery of 210 peices was for 8.5 B$ making it cost 41M$ a peice. We will be better off producting more of MKI at 30M a peice.

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/...milestones.htm

ajaybhutani · 02-14-2005, 11:18 AM

specs for F/A18 hornet makes it out of class in terms of TO weight
http://www.is.northropgrumman.com/pr...s/f18/f18.html

professional · 02-18-2005, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ajaybhutani

there are even reports of developement of a astripped down version of LCA with increased speed and range to be used as fighter trainer .The work will begin after the LCA project completes.
A missile defence system using Prithvi with Green pine radars is also about to start.

Only after the induction of LCA in IAF and knowing more about its capabilies India will
produce better virsions of it.We can see some new plane before MCA which can be something better extracted of LCA . and MCA can get even much better than what we see now.Todays requirements are nothing compared to what one needs in 2015.

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sam0001 Regular Join Date: 01-02-04 Posts: 109	India's defence budget is growing propotionally with GDP. By 2020, you will see Indian defence budget close to $80-100 billion atleast.

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ajaybhutani *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 09-05-04 Posts: 2,100	there are even reports of developement of a astripped down version of LCA with increased speed and range to be used as fighter trainer .The work will begin after the LCA project completes. A missile defence system using Prithvi with Green pine radars is also about to start.

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ajaybhutani *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 09-05-04 Posts: 2,100	Good point is the cost. 100crore rs for a peice (i.e. 22.8M$ )for the first batch of 40. The cost thus shud come down considerably to maybe sub 20M$ levels in later orders.

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ajaybhutani *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 09-05-04 Posts: 2,100	Without even looking at the specifications the cost becomes a big issue. As the contract signed between US Govt and Boeing for F18 superhornet delivery of 210 peices was for 8.5 B$ making it cost 41M$ a peice. We will be better off producting more of MKI at 30M a peice. http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/...milestones.htm

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ajaybhutani *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 09-05-04 Posts: 2,100	specs for F/A18 hornet makes it out of class in terms of TO weight http://www.is.northropgrumman.com/pr...s/f18/f18.html

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