ajaybhutani

actaully development stage has a lot of evaluation of the aircraft to evaluate its capabilities as it shud meed the standards.MCA and the stripped versions of LCA we intend to develop later will surely benefit a lot from the LCA . Also LCa is for a war in 2015 and not today.

professional

Ya you are right.

I just ment to say that by 2015 India ll have much better versions of LCA . And MCA ll benifit from LCA's experience.

Slowly but steadily india will be in line with US, EU and Russia in Fighter production.

But LCA's induction in IAF should mean the LCA with India's own engine.

Otherwise it will not be a success.

ajaybhutani

Comeon yaar.
it will still be a big success. At least we knwo how to make a lot of things. Also we are making kaveri an it will be tested on LCA next year. it will not be used in the first 40 but surely later. it will be used saving millions in forex.

professional

I want to see India's own engine man. An engine can change lots of things.

But making a fighter is a real success , no doubt in that.

ajaybhutani

The Aircrafts are off the list due to to lack of funding.
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_f...ntent_id=83360

bull

Sometimes the lag in getting technical issues defies logic.India claims to have the best engineers,India supply the scientists to NASA but for Indias own projects its delay and delay.Dont say the best brains are out of india,india has got one of the very well acclaimed scientists working here.
So why all these delay?
Look at LCA.China is about the commison the JF17 in half the time that we might take to commision LCA.Why?Lack of funding?I doubt.

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ajaybhutani

Well india surely supplies a lot of engineers doctors and scientists to US and thats a fact, and as a peice of info people are preffering to stay in india more and mroe than before for opportunities are even avialable here now . In fact many are even coming back as opportunities are even better in some areas now.
Now about LCA and JF-17. It would have been nice if u had read the Comparsion thread before saying that for
1. LCA is statically unstable. while JF17 is not.
2. LCA is all original while JF17 is based on already tested desigs of russians.
3. LCA uses around 45% composites by wt . wings are made of complete composites. Its the lightest fighter jet in the world. And JF17 we dont need to say.
4. LCA has been tested with Quad - digital FBW. while JF-17 ( tehre are no reports about wether it ahs been tested with a FBW r not. Just htat it will contain a FBW in the end though no report on wether it will be in the first production AC's or later ones. ) Noone knows.
5. LCA uses a bettter engine and even the indigeneous engine development is under way. While for JF17 the engine wont even be available to pakistan till the chineese copy of it is ready(as russians arent ready to supplly engines to paksitan.). We would ahve got the russian engines any day but we preffered not to go for it.
5. China has developed many aircrafts before than india. And has a bigger aerospace industry.

Well i hope that explains.

bull

Hmmmmmmmm.......

indianguy4u

hiiiiiiiiiiii guys

why don't our govt invite BAE & Rolls Royes co. from britain & IAI from isreal for collaboration ( for LCA , MCA) as we don't have history in aviation execpt marut . it will give impentus to HAL isn't guys?

indianguy4u

hey man , don;t brag about chinese tech . they do only copy paste job & they are doing this for last 30-35 yrs still not perfected it ok. so many pakistanis brag about how good their so called fc-1 is & the reality is its no better than mig 21s which india is replacing & buying 126 new gen of AC

indianguy4u

hi guys ,

why r american so keen to sell f-16sto india .don't think its about money at all then why ?
Is it that they r desperate to sell it to ***** & want our oppostion to be taken care of by offering it to us .
Also which AC if given a chance would u like in IAF
My chioce would be euro fighter what abt all the guys out there

bull

why eurofigher???Its costly plus logistics cost of supporting it is going to be very huge.
I personally dont feel we should by those items which are prone to embargoes from US.

indianguy4u

well if u want that ur investment should be worth more than eurofighter is much better simply its current gen AC while mirage will be good as logistics are in place but it is 80's tech , thats why i think we should buy either rafale or euro & in that my choice surely is eurofighter .Also if we have complete ToT there will be no or less prob ,also we can substitute US stuff in EF with other stuff like isreal or french

lemontree

To save on logistics and complications I would say the Mirage 2000-5, should be bought to fill in the 126 ac required.
The IAF should not complicate things by inducting multiple fighter streams.

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http://www.military.cz/international...fighter_en.htm


Eurofighter Typhoon



The four nation Eurofighter Typhoon is a foreplane delta wing beyond-visual-range and close air fighter aircraft with surface attack capability. Eurofighter has high agility at supresonic speed and 'supercruise' capability, that is it can fly at sustained speeds of over Mach 1 without the use of afterburner.
The company carrying out the development of the aircraft is Eurofighter Jagdflugzeug GmbH based in Munich and wholly owned by Alenia of Italy, British Aerospace of the UK, CASA of Spain and DASA of Germany. The company responsible for the development of the EJ200 engine is Eurojet GmbH, in Munich which is owned by Rolls Royce, Motoren und Turbinen Union, Fiat Aviazione and ITP.
An overall production contract for 620 aircraft was signed in January 1998 with 232 for UK, 180 for Germany, 121 for Italy and 87 for Spain. Initial orders have been placed for 148 aircraft - Germany (44), Italy (29), Spain (20) and UK (55). Production is underway on the first of these aircraft which are planned to enter service with the four participating nations in 2002.
Greece has also chosen to join the Eurofighter programme and is to procure 60 to 90 aircraft, with deliveries beginning in 2005.

WEAPONS
As well as an internally mounted 27 mm Mauser gun, the EurofighterTyphoon has thirteen hard points for weapon carriage, four under each wing and five under the fuselage.
For air-to-air combat the standard weapon configuration is four BVRAAM (Beyond Visual Range) Air to Air Missiles, which are mounted in semi-recessed fuselage stations, and two Advanced Short Range Air-to-Air Missiles, ASRAAMs, on the outer pylons. A mix of up to ten medium range and short range missiles can be carried. The UK RAF are to choose between Matra BAe Dynamics Meteor and Raytheon ERAAM (an improved version of AMRAAM) for the BVRAAM requirement.
Eurofighter has the capability to carry a range of air-to-surface weapons,including the Brimstone and DWS 37 anti-armour weapons, three under each wing and one under the centre fuselage and laser-guided bombs. Avionics pods can be mounted under each wing, for example a laser designator pod.
An Armament Control System (ACS) manages weapons selection and firing and monitors weapon status.

ELECTRONIC WARFARE
The aircraft's electronic warfare suite, the Defensive Aids Sub-System or DASS, is accommodated within the aircraft structure and integrated with aircraft's avionics system. The avionics system is based on a NATO standard databus with fibre optic highways. The DASS includes an electronic countermeasures/electronic support measures system, front and rear threat warnings, decoy systems and chaff and flare dispensers.
The aircraft is equipped with a Forward Looking Infra-red, FLIR and an Infra-red Search and Track system, IRSTwhich provides passive target detection and tracking. The IRST sensor operates in both 3 - 5 and 8 - 11 micron spectral bands.

RADAR
The aircraft is equipped with an ECR 90 multi-mode X-band pulse Doppler radar being developed by the Euroradar industrial consortium. The multi-mode radar has three processing channels. The third channel is used for jammer classification, interference blanking and sidelobe nulling. Euroradar is led by the UK company Marconi Electronic Systems with ENOSA of Spain, FIAR of Italy and DaimlerChrysler Aerospace (DASA) of Germany.

COCKPIT
The pilot's control system is a VTAS Voice-Throttle-and-Stick system. Two dozen finger tip controls are housed on the stick and throttle tops for sensor and weapon control, defence aids management and in-flight handling. The Direct Voice Input allows the pilot to carry out mode selection and data entry procedures using voice command as an alternative to manual systems for tasks such as HUD/MHUDD moding (head up display and multi-function head down display), selection of radio and navigation aids and target selection.
The Helmet Mounted Symbology System (HMS) and the Head Up Display show the flight reference data, weapon aiming and cueing, and the Forward Looking Infra-red imagery. The helmet is being developed by Marconi Electronic Systems and includes a night vision capability and flash and electro-optical threat protection.
The cockpit has three multi-function colour head down displays, MHDDs, which show data relating to the tactical situation, aircraft systems status and map displays. Any of the required data can be shown on the head down displays using the soft-key selection around each display.

PILOT EQUIPMENT
The pilot's equipment specific to Eurofighter includes the helmet, a liquid conditioning suit, a pressure breathing anti-g-force vest, a full body nuclear, biological and chemical warfare protection suit and outer garments for various environmental conditions.

FLIGHT CONTROL
The aircraft design is aerodynamically unstable to provide a high level of agility, low drag and enhanced lift. The pilot controls the aircraft through a computerised digital fly-by-wire system which provides artificial stabilisation and gust elevation to give good control characteristics throughout the flight envelope.
The all-moving foreplanes and the inboard and outboard full span flaperons provide the pitch and role control. The yaw control is achieved with the rudder. The automatic leading edge slats on the wing provide the optimum wing camber for all angles of attack.
Secondary flight control systems include the airbrake, intake cowls, and the nosewheel steering.

ENGINE
The Eurofighter is equipped with two Eurojet EJ200 engines, each delivering very high thrust of 90 kN in full reheat and 60 kN in dry power mode. The engine features:
- digital control
- wide chord aerofoils and single crystal turbine blades
- powder metallurgy discs
- lightweight compressor and turbine assemblies
- integral blade and disk assemblies
- a convergent /divergent exhaust nozzle integrated health monitoring


CONSTRUCTION
The aircraft is built primarily as a single-seater, and a fully operational two-seater version is provided for instruction and weapon training exercises. The two-seater aircraft can be flown with the rear seat unoccupied. The aircraft is constructed of carbon fire composites, glass reinforced plastic, aluminium lithium, titanium and aluminium casting.

Source: Mach3/Eurofighter Typhoon

General characteristics
Powerplant Two Eurojet EJ200 engine
Total combat thrust 40,000 lb 18,144 kg
Wingspan 36 ft 10.95 m
Length 52.36 ft 15.96 m
Height 17.3 ft 5.28 m
Wingarea 538 sq ft 50.0 sq m
Weight empty 22.045 lb 10,000 kg
max. 46,320 lb 21,009 kg
Max. level speed 1,483 mph (Mach 2.0) 2,387 km/h
'g' limits +9'g' / -3'g'
Runway length 2,300 ft 700 m
Armament BVRAAM, ASRAAM (4 points for weapon carriage under each wing and 5 under the fuselage), 27mm Mauser cannon
Crew One (2 for training)