keshto patel

lemontree

I pity you, your choice of the article shows your ideology.
Why blame him, I blame the eunuchs at Somanath for allowing the Arabs to plunder the city 13 times. 13 times is not a joke.
It was not Gandhi that was responsible for the murder of hindus but Jinnah and the muslim league.

This is going to be fun. An RSS guy to argue with. Come on lets see what you've got.

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Cheers!...on the rocks!!

Samudra

Idiots they are.
Somnath , 13 times ?
Sir , i believe it was Ghazni , a total of 17 times , at various places.!!!
Dont know really.....

BTW Who Can touch Amarnath ?

Keshto

Bring it on.
Good that you started a new thread.

FYI Capt.Lemontree ( ) and Brig.Ray are both Christians ...
They put their lifes in harms way, more than anybody else here.
And that is for the country , thereby protecting his fellow countrymen.
And your kind of armchair propaganda drones , did what ?

I believe Jaichand too was finished off.

There were these too many invasions into India. Kushanas ,Shakas , and many more , but do you find them with an individual identity today inside India ? No they have merged with the locals and after so many years , we cant differentiate

Jay

Godse and Apte both are jack asses so are the other Bajrang Dal and RSS fundoos incld Ashok Singhal. I would strangle him myself if I ever get a chance.

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A grain of wheat eclipsed the sun of Adam !!

keshto patel

So in your books americans must be eunuchs who let british rule over them?
So do koreans who were rule by japanese?
so was entire south america who were ruled by spain, so much so that they speak spanish and dont speak their ancestral language?

Mistakes have been made by meek sanatam dharm hindus but no more, no more forced conversions,no more elligal border crossing, no more hindu killings.


And in above sense look where is america, korea of today n where india is missing big time.

The ground reality is, where are you today and where will you be tommorow!

keshto patel

Why you are silent on the following if you are a true indian?


India - Terrorist, insurgent and extremist groups
Assam

United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA)
National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB)
United People's Democratic Solidarity (UPDS)
Kamtapur Liberation Organisation (KLO)
Bodo Liberation Tiger Force (BLTF)
Dima Halim Daogah (DHD)
Karbi National Volunteers (KNV)
Rabha National Security Force (RNSF)
Koch-Rajbongshi Liberation Organisation (KRLO)
Hmar People's Convention- Democracy (HPC-D)
Karbi People's Front (KPF)
Tiwa National Revolutionary Force (TNRF)
Bircha Commando Force (BCF)
Bengali Tiger Force (BTF)
Adivasi Security Force (ASF)
All Assam Adivasi Suraksha Samiti (AAASS)
Gorkha Tiger Force (GTF)
Barak Valley Youth Liberation Front (BVYLF)
Muslim United Liberation Tigers of Assam (MULTA)
United Liberation Front of Barak Valley
Muslim United Liberation Front of Assam (MULFA)
Muslim Security Council of Assam (MSCA)
United Liberation Militia of Assam (ULMA)
Islamic Liberation Army of Assam (ILAA)
Muslim Volunteer Force (MVF)
Muslim Liberation Army (MLA)
Muslim Security Force (MSF)
Islamic Sevak Sangh (ISS)
Islamic United Reformation Protest of India (IURPI)
United Muslim Liberation Front of Assam (UMLFA)
Revolutionary Muslim Commandos (RMC)
Muslim Tiger Force (MTF)
People’s United Liberation Front (PULF)
Adam Sena (AS)
Harkat-ul-Mujahideen
Harkat-ul-Jehad

Jammu & Kashmir

Terrorist Outfits
Lashkar-e-Omar (LeO)
Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM)
Harkat-ul-Ansar (HuA, presently known as Harkat-ul Mujahideen)
Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT)
Jaish-e-Mohammad Mujahideen E-Tanzeem (JeM)
Harkat-ul Mujahideen (HuM, previously known as Harkat-ul-Ansar)
Al Badr
Jamait-ul-Mujahideen (JuM)
Lashkar-e-Jabbar (LeJ)
Harkat-ul-Jehad-i-Islami
Al Barq
Tehrik-ul-Mujahideen
Al Jehad
Jammu & Kashir National Liberation Army
People’s League
Muslim Janbaz Force
Kashmir Jehad Force
Al Jehad Force (combines Muslim Janbaz Force and Kashmir Jehad Force)
Al Umar Mujahideen
Mahaz-e-Azadi
Islami Jamaat-e-Tulba
Jammu & Kashmir Students Liberation Front
Ikhwan-ul-Mujahideen
Islamic Students League
Tehrik-e-Hurriat-e-Kashmir
Tehrik-e-Nifaz-e-Fiqar Jafaria
Al Mustafa Liberation Fighters
Tehrik-e-Jehad-e-Islami
Muslim Mujahideen
Al Mujahid Force
Tehrik-e-Jehad
Islami Inquilabi Mahaz
Other Extremist and Secessionist Groups
Mutahida Jehad Council (MJC) -- A Pakistan based coordination body of terrorist outfits active in Jammu and Kashmir
Jammu & Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF)-- The dominant faction of this outfit declared a ceasefire in 1994 which still holds and the outfit restricts itself to a political struggle.
All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHC) -- an alliance engineered by Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) of 26 diverse political and socio-religious outfits amalgamated to provide a political face for the terrorists in the State.
Dukhtaran-e-Millat (DeM) -- an outfit run by women which uses community pressure to further the social norms dictated by Islamic fundamental groups.


Manipur

United National Liberation Front (UNLF)
People’s Liberation Army (PLA)
People’s Revolutionary Party of Kangleipak (PREPAK)
The above mentioned three groups now operate from a unified platform, the Manipur People’s Liberation Front (MPLF)
Kangleipak Communist Party (KCP)
Kanglei Yawol Kanna Lup (KYKL)
Manipur Liberation Tiger Army (MLTA)
Iripak Kanba Lup (IKL)
People’s Republican Army (PRA)
Kangleipak Kanba Kanglup (KKK)
Kangleipak Liberation Organisation (KLO)
Revolutionary Joint Committee (RJC)
National Socialist Council of Nagaland -- Isak-Muivah (NSCN-IM)
People’s United Liberation Front (PULF)
North East Minority Front (NEMF)
Islamic National Front (INF)
Islamic Revolutionary Front (IRF)
United Islamic Liberation Army (UILA)
United Islamic Revolutionary Army (UIRA)
Kuki National Front (KNF)
Kuki National Army (KNA)
Kuki Revolutionary Army (KRA)
Kuki National Organisation (KNO)
Kuki Independent Army (KIA)
Kuki Defence Force (KDF)
Kuki International Force (KIF)
Kuki National Volunteers (KNV)
Kuki Liberation Front (KLF)
Kuki Security Force (KSF)
Kuki Liberation Army (KLA)
Kuki Revolutionary Front (KRF)
United Kuki Liberation Front (UKLF)
Hmar People’s Convention (HPC)
Hmar People's Convention- Democracy (HPC-D)
Hmar Revolutionary Front (HRF)
Zomi Revolutionary Army (ZRA)
Zomi Revolutionary Volunteers (ZRV)
Indigenous People's Revolutionary Alliance(IRPA)
Kom Rem People's Convention (KRPC)
Chin Kuki Revolutionary Front (CKRF)

Meghalaya

Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council (HNLC)
Achik National Volunteer Council (ANVC)
People’s Liberation Front of Meghalaya (PLF-M)
Hajong United Liberation Army (HULA)

Nagaland

National Socialist Council of Nagaland (Isak-Muivah) – NSCN(IM)
National Socialist Council of Nagaland (Khaplang) – NSCN (K)
Naga National Council (Adino) – NNC (Adino)

Punjab
Babbar Khalsa International (BKI)
Khalistan Zindabad Force (KZF)
International Sikh Youth Federation (ISYF)
Khalistan Commando Force (KCF)
All-India Sikh Students Federation (AISSF)
Bhindrawala Tigers Force of Khalistan (BTFK)
Khalistan Liberation Army (KLA)
Khalistan Liberation Front (KLF)
Khalistan Armed Force (KAF)
Dashmesh Regiment
Khalistan Liberation Organisation (KLO)
Khalistan National Army (KNA)

Tripura

National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT)
All Tripura Tiger Force (ATTF)
Tripura Liberation Organisation Front (TLOF)
United Bengali Liberation Front (UBLF)
Tripura Tribal Volunteer Force (TTVF)
Tripura Armed Tribal Commando Force (TATCF)
Tripura Tribal Democratic Force (TTDF)
Tripura Tribal Youth Force (TTYF)
Tripura Liberation Force (TLF)
Tripura Defence Force (TDF)
All Tripura Volunteer Force (ATVF)
Tribal Commando Force (TCF)
Tripura Tribal Youth Force (TTYF)
All Tripura Bharat Suraksha Force (ATBSF)
Tripura Tribal Action Committee Force (TTACF)
Socialist Democratic Front of Tripura (SDFT)
All Tripura National Force (ATNF)
Tripura Tribal Sengkrak Force (TTSF)
Tiger Commando Force (TCF)
Tripura Mukti Police (TMP)
Tripura Rajya Raksha Bahini (TRRB)
Tripura State Volunteers (TSV)
Tripura National Democratic Tribal Force (TNDTF)
National Militia of Tripura (NMT)
All Tripura Bengali Regiment (ATBR)
Bangla Mukti Sena (BMS)
All Tripura Liberation Organisation (ATLO)
Tripura National Army (TNA)
Tripura State Volunteers (TSV)
Borok National Council of Tripura (BNCT)

Mizoram
Bru National Liberation Front
Hmar People's Convention- Democracy (HPC-D)

Arunachal Pradesh
Arunachal Dragon Force (ADF)

Left-wing Extremist groups

People's Guerrilla Army
People's War Group
Maoist Communist Centre

Other Extremist Groups
Tamil National Retrieval Troops (TNRT)
Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj (ABNES)
Tamil Nadu Liberation Army (TNLA)
Deendar Anjuman
Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI)
Asif Reza Commando Force
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
Kamatapur Liberation Organisation (KLO)

Ranvir Sena

keshto patel

Benny Hinn: Healer or Hypnotist?

Investigative Files
http://www.csicop.org/si/2002-05/i-files.html

keshto patel

Pakistan has agreed to investigate reports of mortar firing by its Army in violation of the ceasefire along the Line of Control in Poonch.

Thirteen mortar rounds were fired on an Indian post last evening, shattering the calm that prevailed since the Indo-Pak ceasefire of November 25, 2003.

"Around 12 to 13 mortar bombs were fired across us. We also heard shouts of Allah-o-Akbar said Lieutenant General Hari Prasad, Northern Army Commander.

Ceasefire violation

Jay

Good copy paste from Dalistan.org. You just went down one more notch

keshto patel

While the world is obsessed about Gujarat, the secular media is silent about the genocide in Kashmir ?

19/01/90: When Kashmiri Pandits fled Islamic terror

January 19, 2005


Srinagar, January 4, 1990. Aftab, a local Urdu newspaper, publishes a press release issued by Hizb-ul Mujahideen, set up by the Jamaat-e-Islami in 1989 to wage jihad for Jammu and Kashmir's secession from India and accession to Pakistan, asking all Hindus to pack up and leave. Another local paper, Al Safa, repeats this expulsion order.

In the following days, there is near chaos in the Kashmir valley with Chief Minister Farooq Abdullah and his National Conference government abdicating all responsibilities of the State. Masked men run amok, waving Kalashnikovs, shooting to kill and shouting anti-India slogans.

Jay

Regardless of all the groups, I'll still say RSS and Bajrang Dal are a bunch of dick wading loosers and some one should really cut the crap out of them.

I'm glad they dont have a foothold in south India.

keshto patel

19/01/90: When Kashmiri Pandits fled Islamic terror

January 19, 2005


Srinagar, January 4, 1990. Aftab, a local Urdu newspaper, publishes a press release issued by Hizb-ul Mujahideen, set up by the Jamaat-e-Islami in 1989 to wage jihad for Jammu and Kashmir's secession from India and accession to Pakistan, asking all Hindus to pack up and leave. Another local paper, Al Safa, repeats this expulsion order.

In the following days, there is near chaos in the Kashmir valley with Chief Minister Farooq Abdullah and his National Conference government abdicating all responsibilities of the State. Masked men run amok, waving Kalashnikovs, shooting to kill and shouting anti-India slogans.

Reports of killing of Hindus, invariably Kashmiri Pandits, begin to trickle in; there are explosions; inflammatory speeches are made from the pulpits of mosques, using public address systems meant for calling the faithful to prayers. A terrifying fear psychosis begins to take grip of Kashmiri Pandits.
Walls are plastered with posters and handbills, summarily ordering all Kashmiris to strictly follow the Islamic dress code, prohibiting the sale and consumption of alcoholic drinks and imposing a ban on video parlours and cinemas. The masked men with Kalashnikovs force people to re-set their watches and clocks to Pakistan Standard Time.

Shops, business establishments and homes of Kashmiri Pandits, the original inhabitants of the Kashmir valley with a recorded cultural and civilisational history dating back 5,000 years, are marked out. Notices are pasted on doors of Pandit houses, peremptorily asking the occupants to leave Kashmir within 24 hours or face death and worse. Some are more lucid: "Be one with us, run, or die!"

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Srinagar, January 19, 1990. Jagmohan arrives to take charge as governor of Jammu and Kashmir. Farooq Abdullah, whose pathetic, whimpering, snivelling government has all but ceased to exist and has gone into hiding, resigns and goes into a sulk. Curfew is imposed as a first measure to restore some semblance of law and order. But it fails to have a deterrent effect.

Throughout the day, Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front and Hizbul Mujahideen terrorists use public address systems at mosques to exhort people to defy curfew and take to the streets. Masked men, firing from their Kalashnikovs, march up and down, terrorising cowering Pandits who, by then, have locked themselves in their homes.

As evening falls, the exhortations become louder and shriller. Three taped slogans are repeatedly played the whole night from mosques: 'Kashmir mei agar rehna hai, Allah-O-Akbar kehna hai' (If you want to stay in Kashmir, you have to say Allah-O-Akbar); 'Yahan kya chalega, Nizam-e-Mustafa' (What do we want here? Rule of Shariah); 'Asi gachchi Pakistan, Batao roas te Batanev san' (We want Pakistan along with Hindu women but without their men).

In the preceding months, 300 Hindu men and women, nearly all of them Kashmiri Pandits, had been slaughtered ever since the brutal murder of Pandit Tika Lal Taploo, noted lawyer and BJP national executive member, by the JKLF in Srinagar on September 14, 1989. Soon after that, Justice N K Ganju of the Srinagar high court was shot dead. Pandit Sarwanand Premi, 80-year-old poet, and his son were kidnapped, tortured, their eyes gouged out, and hanged to death. A Kashmiri Pandit nurse working at the Soura Medical College Hospital in Srinagar was gang-raped and then beaten to death. Another woman was abducted, raped and sliced into bits and pieces at a sawmill.

In villages and towns across the Kashmir valley, terrorist hit lists have been floating about. All the names are of Kashmiri Pandits. With no government worth its name, the administration having collapsed and disappeared, the police nowhere to be seen, despondency sets in. As the night of January 19, 1990, wears itself out, despondency gives way to desperation.

And tens of thousands of Kashmiri Pandits across the valley take a painful decision: to flee their homeland to save their lives from rabid jihadis. Thus takes place a 20th century Exodus.

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Srinagar, January 19, 2005. There are no Kashmiri Pandits in Srinagar, or, for that matter, anywhere else in the Kashmir valley; they don't live here anymore. You can find them in squalid refugee camps in Jammu and Delhi. As many as 300,000 Kashmiri Pandits have fled their home and hearth and been reduced to living the lives of refugees in their own country.

Two-thirds of them are camping in Jammu. The rest are in Delhi and in other Indian cities. Many of them, once prosperous and proud of their rich heritage, now live in grovelling poverty, dependent on government dole and charity. In these 15 years, an entire generation of exiled Kashmiri Pandits has grown up, without seeing the land from where their parents fled to escape the brutalities of Islamic terrorism, a land they dare not return to, although that land still remains a part of their country.

A large number of them are suffering from a variety of stress and depression related diseases. A group of doctors who surveyed the mental and physical health of the Kashmiri Pandits living in refugee camps, found high incidence of 'economic distress, stress induced diabetes, partial lunacy, hypertension and mental retardation.' Statistics reflect high death rate and low birth rate among the Kashmiri Pandit refugees.

And thereby hangs a tragic tale that has been all but wiped out from public memory.

An entire people have been uprooted from the land of their ancestors and left to fend for themselves as a weak-kneed Indian state shamelessly panders to Islamic terrorists and separatists who claim they are the final arbiters of Jammu and Kashmir's destiny. A part of India's cultural heritage has been destroyed; a chapter of India's civilisational history has been erased.

Had this tragedy occurred elsewhere in Hindu majority India, and had the victims been Muslims, we would have described it as 'ethnic cleansing' and 'genocide.' We would have made films with horror-inducing titles. We would have filed cases in the Supreme Court of India. Our media would have marshalled remarkable rage in reporting the smallest detail.

But, this tragedy has occurred in Muslim majority Kashmir valley, and the victims are all Hindus, that too Pandits. What has been lost is part of India's Hindu culture, what has been erased is integral to India's Hindu civilisation.

Therefore, the government makes bold to record that the Kashmiri Pandits have "migrated on their own" and their 'displacement (is) self-imposed;' the National Human Rights Commission, after a perfunctory inquiry, refuses to concede that what has happened is 'genocide' or 'ethnic cleansing,' though facts add up to no less than that, never mind that 300,000 lives have been destroyed.

And, our jhola-wallah brigade of secular activists rudely turn up their noses to the plight of Kashmiri Pandits: Hindu sorrow, inflicted by Islamic terror, stinks.

Today, on January 19, the 15th anniversary of the forced flight of Kashmiri Pandits, look back at India's wretched history of secular politics and consider the terrible price the nation has paid at the altar of appeasement because the Indian State has, and continues to, toe the line of least resistance.
Reflect. Resolve. React.
Next week: The Kashmiri Pandits' living nightmare.
ALSO READ: Pandits will return on their own terms
Are we now a nation of shameless people?

http://us.rediff.com/news/2005/jan/19kanch.htm



Where is my p-sec ruling alliance? Where is the p-sec media? Where are the p-sec socialites and self proclaimed activists?! An entire community displaced from their homeland for more than 15 years and no body yet dares to call this a blot on the secular fabric of India ... because it is the Hindus??

where is shabana, teesta ,why hasnt that moron anand patwardhan made a film on this ?? ,where is HR commission ?? the pandit cleansing has patterns very similar to the Nazis' ,very gory details,the pandits are the locals of Kashmir,in fact if you study kashmirs history for past few hundred years it was all hindu and only under some despot people were forced to convert, not to mention the sacrifice of the great sikh guru teghbahadur who gave up his life for the pandits.

keshto patel

Muslims are living a stealth life in india as of now because of hindus emergence, once they would be in sizable numbers, they would drag your sisters n mothers from your house (dont take personal its a general talk).

This was our history, and people like you with no crystal ball would make it happen - history would be repeated.

Then there are people who dont mind converting, because to change a religion is changing their clothes.

Asim Aquil

Your version of MMA? All religious political groups will ruin governance if they were given a freehand. Christians, Hindus and we Muslims alike...

Btw, if you'd stop reading hate sites and actually open up encyclopedias and read books not quotes from hindu extremist sites, you'll learn a great deal about Gandhi. Did it ever occur to you, his Muslim love was a power political tool for Hindustan? No wait, Bharat?

They even got the name changed to Bharat, to be the country's official name post-Independence. The more he posed a friend of the Muslims the harder it got for a pork eating, wine drinking, secularist Jinnah. Remember the major party that makes the MMA (its a union), was opposed to the creation of Pakistan, since it felt, they can take over India one fine day if they stay united. They probably still do, sigh.

Gandhi is often mis-understood as a pacifist. You know Jinnah broke off from the congress because of disapproval of Gandhi's politics? Before that Jinnah was nicked "The greatest Ambassador for Hindu-Muslim unity".

keshto patel

QUOTE:


Today many Hindus are angry with Gandhi for not being firm against the Muslims and allowing Pakistan to separate. But I believe this is very unfair judgment against Mahatama Gandhi. The blame should not be placed on Gandhi. There was nothing that he could do to keep India together. To hold Gandhi responsible for the separation of Pakistan from India is like blaming Dr. Bakhtiar for letting Khomeini take over Iran. This blame rests on the shoulders of Jinah and the racist mentality that Islam inculcates in its victims. It is Islam that indoctrinates its believers to consider themselves “pak” clean and the unbelievers “najes” filthy. It is Islam that cannot tolerate people of other religions. Jinah was not a religious man but he used religion as an excuse for his separatists ambition. Gandhi could do nothing vis-à-vis this much religious hate. The great master tried his best and he even praised Muhammad to ebb the animosity of the Muslims. But Islamic hate is too strong to be subdued by love.

Gandhi was unable to stop that much hate. You cannot win a Muslim by love. Once a person becomes a Muslim he loses his humanity; his reason is gone; his sense of justice is vanished; his heart becomes full of hate. He thinks of killing the unbelievers; he despises people who are not Muslims and hate consumes his being.

Today the Hindus of India blame Gandhi for caving in to the Muslims, which at the end, as they claim, cost more lives. What could Gandhi possibly have done? Should he have brought tanks and gunned down the Muslim separatists? Would this have subdued their hate? Would this have stopped them from wanting to have their own country? Of course not! Recall what General Yahya Khan did in Bangladesh. He invaded that country (then called East Pakistan) when Mujib al Rahman from Awami League of Bangladesh won the election. 90,000 Pakistani solders took the country, massacred 3,000,000 Bengali civilians, mostly intellectuals and raped up to 250,000 women. This rape was sanctioned by a leading Mullah of Pakistan by the authority of what Quran teaches to do with the non-Muslim women captured in war. Avami League was declared un-Islamic and therefore the killing spree and rape was licensed. Did this stop Bangladesh from getting her independence? Force is never the answer. Gandhi could do nothing to stop the disintegration of his country. The disease was already advanced. The disintegration of India was inevitable.

Islam is a disease that destroys everything. It devastates lives and tears apart families and nations. The hatred of the unbelievers is encouraged in Quran. A Muslim is not even allowed to pray for his own father and mother if they do not believe in that cult 9:23. Wherever Islam goes the disintegration of that country follows. This disease must be stopped before it spreads.

Now we know what to do. We have to eradicate this deadly disease and destroy Islam. Taslima Nasrin said that fundamentalism is a poisonous branch shooting from the trunk of Islam. Until the trunk is alive it will keep growing poisonous branches. The solution is to cut the tree. You fight against fundamentalism in one place and ten more fundamentalists and terrorist movements shoot out in other places. The world must realize that Islam IS fundamentalism. It IS terrorism. You cannot fight against Islamic fundamentalism and Islamic terrorism without fighting against Islam itself.

According to the western etiquette, it is not politically correct to criticize people’s beliefs. This may work in the West. But Islam is a totally different animal. You have to deal with Islam according to its own standards. The standards of Islam are intolerance of other beliefs. If we want to stop fundamentalism, the Talibans, the Hamas, the Hezbollahis and Islamic terrorism in Philippines, East Timor, Kashmir, Turkey, Egypt, Africa, USA and anywhere else, we have to kill Islam. We have to aim our darts at the heart of Islam. We have to attack Muhammad and destroy the credibility of Quran

Allahu akbar
Fatehmolla