India test-fires N-powered water baby K-15

Adux · 02-26-2008, 04:42 AM

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India test-fires N-powered water baby K-15

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NEW CLEAR MEMBER: DRDO said the missile was launched from a pontoon located 50 metres underwater.

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New Delhi: India on Tuesday successfully test-fired the submarine-launched ballistic missile codenamed K-15, extending to sea India’s critical third leg of the nuclear triad.

DRDO said the missile was launched from a pontoon located 50 metres underwater and was seen exiting the sea.

K-15 is a two-stage missile with a range of 700 km and can carry a one-tonne nuclear warhead.

The missile is planned to be integrated onto India's ATV, the indigenous nuclear submarine which will reportedly begin sea trials next year.

Previously codenamed ‘Sagarika’, this missile has been test-fired five times earlier from underwater pontoons under a secret programme.

India test-fires N-powered water baby K-15

Adux · 02-26-2008, 04:43 AM

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India successfully test fires K-15 ballistic missile

Tuesday, 26 February , 2008, 13:20

New Delhi: India today successfully test fired its first-ever under-sea ballistic missile at a place 10 km from Visakhapatnam and has joined a select band of five countries equipped with the technology of nuclear deterrence.
The missile K-15, with a range of 700-km, was test fired from a pontoon immersed in the sea as India does not have a submarine for such an exercise.

India successfully test fires K-15 ballistic missile - Sify.com

Deltacamelately · 02-26-2008, 06:13 AM

One Step to the Right Direction. As I told you before...being a Gunner...its my gut feeling that India can't claim to have a credible second strike capability without a SSBN based platform. Now we need some good SSBNs. Grrrrrrrreat!

Adux · 02-26-2008, 07:36 AM

Matter of time delta!!!!!!

**Officer of Engineers** · 02-26-2008, 09:07 AM

Hands up those who wants to stand besides a nuclear reactor that is inches of steel thick in a coffin surrounded by sharks while recalling that civilian reactors are yards of concrete thick, in the open air, and don't have to worry about breathing water.

Adux · 02-26-2008, 09:14 AM

All fine men,

somak11 · 02-26-2008, 09:14 AM

Nuclear Subs, Aircraft Carriers, ICBMS, Military sattelites?? India is all about power projection now-a-days!!!!

Adux · 02-26-2008, 09:19 AM

It seems to be a Cruise missile, which may indicate that the ATV will be a SSGN rather than a SSBN.
700 Kilometers is the stated range of the missile. Underwater version of the 4000km Agni-3 is supposed to be in the works, the second Sub which is being built maybe a SSBN, India has no option other than confront the dragon.

Ray · 02-26-2008, 09:30 AM

Its fine that India is moving on and into fields that are pressured by its national needs.

However, there is nothing extraordinary in such events. They are but natural increments that has been added and more shall be added as the time comes!

Deltacamelately · 02-26-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray

Its fine that India is moving on and into fields that are pressured by its national needs.

However, there is nothing extraordinary in such events. They are but natural increments that has been added and more shall be added as the time comes!

Sir, the only concern area is the DRDOs tendency of reinventing the wheel everytime they want to make something. Plus they also need to bring in the Pvt. Sector in a Big Way. Amen.

K Mehta · 02-26-2008, 17:56 PM

Hi,
The pontoon from which the launch was made was made by L&T, so is the hull of the ATV as well as the Launcher for AAD and Akash. The Missile parts are being made by HAL and Tata apart form other private companies. Its just a matter of PR of DRDO, they dont want to deliberately put the private members to risk by exposing their involvement in such projects of strategic importance or something is simply wrong.

Delta, Check out the defexpo photos on Bharat-rakshak or for that matter any other sites, you will find out how much the private sector involvement is ans how much they are coming up. Not that they have become front-runners in the world but they are coming up.

Deltacamelately · 02-27-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by K Mehta

Hi,
The pontoon from which the launch was made was made by L&T, so is the hull of the ATV as well as the Launcher for AAD and Akash. The Missile parts are being made by HAL and Tata apart form other private companies. Its just a matter of PR of DRDO, they dont want to deliberately put the private members to risk by exposing their involvement in such projects of strategic importance or something is simply wrong.

Delta, Check out the defexpo photos on Bharat-rakshak or for that matter any other sites, you will find out how much the private sector involvement is ans how much they are coming up. Not that they have become front-runners in the world but they are coming up.

My stand was "Big Way". That couple of Pvt. co. are involved is a moot point if we compare ourselves with the Western Nations. If India wants to have her day as military power with a indigenuos military-industrial complex, then the Pvt. sectors have to chip in a Big Way.

Adux · 02-28-2008, 01:16 AM

Why do they think it is always about them!!!!!!!, We have China claiming about 90,000 sq.km of Indian teritory, and we have a certain Mr.Robert Gates and the rest of the world welcoming India's test.

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powered by SphereKARACHI (Reuters) - India's successful test-firing of a nuclear-capable, submarine-launched missile will trigger a new arms race in the region, Pakistan's navy chief said on Wednesday.

Nuclear-armed Pakistan and India have fought three wars since their partition and independence in 1947, and nearly went to war a fourth time in 2002, but relations have improved since they launched a peace process in 2004.

India, already capable of launches from land and air, tested the new missile on Tuesday from a surfaced submarine -- a step closer to firing from under the sea and matching countries such as the United States, Russia, France and China.

"These developments...put nuclear weapons at sea and it is a very, very serious issue," navy chief Admiral Muhammad Afzal Tahir told reporters in Karachi.

"This is going to start a new arms race in the region," he was quoted as saying by the state-run Associated Press of Pakistan. Indian officials say the K-15, a two-stage missile with a top range of 700 km (450 miles), will be eventually deployed with a domestically built nuclear submarine, after further tests.

The two South Asian countries routinely test missiles in spite of their peace process.

(Reporting by Augustine Anthony; Editing by Robert Birsel)

So bring on the arms race.

Adux · 02-28-2008, 01:18 AM

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Sagarika’s significance

The successful test of the Sagarika missile marks a public declaration of the progress India has made towards establishing its own submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) capability. Nuclear warheads delivered by aircraft, land-based ballistic missiles, and SLBMs together form the deadly ‘triad’ considered necessary for ‘stable nuclear deterrence,’ whatever that means in this day and age. Carried onboard by specially designed nuclear-powered submarines that can lurk undetected in the depths of the ocean for months at a time, the SLBM promises a devastating riposte should a nuclear first-strike by an enemy destroy or severely cripple the country’s air- and land-based nuclear weapon systems. The political implications of the latest test are a matter of serious concern, with Pakistan registering its protest against what it sees as a new phase in a South Asian arms race. Technologically, launching ballistic missiles from a submarine moving underwater requires a series of complex steps. Powerful gas generator systems must be activated to eject each missile from the vertical tube in which it is carried onboard the submarine. The missile’s rocket motor must fire as soon as it breaks the ocean surface and the onboard guidance system must quickly orient the missile along the correct launch trajectory. India has proven solid propulsion technology within the civilian space programme as well as the missile programme run by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO). The February 26 test was carried out from a submerged pontoon that performed the role of a submarine’s missile tube. The success of this test, as also of previous ones — DRDO officials have now disclosed — indicate mastery of the intricacies of launching a ballistic missile underwater.

For SLBM capability, the ballistic missile is only half the story. In the 1970s, India embarked on the Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV) project to build a nuclear-powered submarine. For years, a key problem was developing a nuclear reactor compact enough to fit inside a submarine. Using highly enriched uranium produced at the Rare Materials Project near Mysore, the miniature reactor became fully operational only in December 2004. Media reports speak of a plan to build by 2015 a fleet of three nuclear submarines, each carrying 12 nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles. It is instructive, however, to remember that although China launched its first Xia-class nuclear submarine capable of carrying ballistic missiles in 1981, a missile was successfully launched from it only seven years later. The political implications aside, Indian defence scientists and naval personnel have several technological hurdles to overcome before they achieve their dream of SLBM capability.

The Hindu : Opinion / Editorials : Sagarika’s significance

Deltacamelately · 02-28-2008, 04:01 AM

India will be needing at least 10 SSBNs in order to be able to project power beyond the IOA. If this starts an arms race...so be it.

02-26-2008, 06:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
Deltacamelately *Military Professional* Join Date: 09-29-07 Posts: 718 Country:	One Step to the Right Direction. As I told you before...being a Gunner...its my gut feeling that India can't claim to have a credible second strike capability without a SSBN based platform. Now we need some good SSBNs. Grrrrrrrreat! __________________ I am the DARK that Rise to Kill..And Soar to Redeem!

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Officer of Engineers *Military Professional* Moderator Scotch taster Join Date: 08-06-03 Posts: 15,918 Country:	Hands up those who wants to stand besides a nuclear reactor that is inches of steel thick in a coffin surrounded by sharks while recalling that civilian reactors are yards of concrete thick, in the open air, and don't have to worry about breathing water. __________________ Chimo

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Adux Banished Join Date: 07-29-05 Location: Cochin Posts: 2,931 Country:	It seems to be a Cruise missile, which may indicate that the ATV will be a SSGN rather than a SSBN. 700 Kilometers is the stated range of the missile. Underwater version of the 4000km Agni-3 is supposed to be in the works, the second Sub which is being built maybe a SSBN, India has no option other than confront the dragon. Last edited by Adux : 02-26-2008 at 09:22 AM.

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Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 26,149 Country:	Its fine that India is moving on and into fields that are pressured by its national needs. However, there is nothing extraordinary in such events. They are but natural increments that has been added and more shall be added as the time comes! __________________ "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination." I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to. HAKUNA MATATA

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Adux Banished Join Date: 07-29-05 Location: Cochin Posts: 2,931 Country:	Matter of time delta!!!!!!

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Adux Banished Join Date: 07-29-05 Location: Cochin Posts: 2,931 Country:	All fine men,

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somak11 Banished Regular Join Date: 02-25-08 Posts: 36 Country:	Nuclear Subs, Aircraft Carriers, ICBMS, Military sattelites?? India is all about power projection now-a-days!!!!

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K Mehta Regular Join Date: 10-24-07 Posts: 43 Country:	Hi, The pontoon from which the launch was made was made by L&T, so is the hull of the ATV as well as the Launcher for AAD and Akash. The Missile parts are being made by HAL and Tata apart form other private companies. Its just a matter of PR of DRDO, they dont want to deliberately put the private members to risk by exposing their involvement in such projects of strategic importance or something is simply wrong. Delta, Check out the defexpo photos on Bharat-rakshak or for that matter any other sites, you will find out how much the private sector involvement is ans how much they are coming up. Not that they have become front-runners in the world but they are coming up.

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Deltacamelately *Military Professional* Join Date: 09-29-07 Posts: 718 Country:	India will be needing at least 10 SSBNs in order to be able to project power beyond the IOA. If this starts an arms race...so be it.

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